Charlie,

Regarding your question of October 21st @ 2:05 p.m., 2003.

‘’Have weights & measures always been the same? For example, 1 av.oz. is 1 fl.oz. and so on.’’

Yes, Charlie.

That’s the whole basis of weights & measures, and has been since weights & measures were invented more than 8000 yr. ago

In England there has been written authority for weight as in measure since 965.

But most folks quote Art.35, Magna Carta 1215, ‘’…… And with weights, moreover, it shall be as with measures.’’

It’s also the reason that Napoleon Emperor’s Republic of Europe Decadent Weights & Measures are incomprehensible, in addition to being unconstitutional and illegal.

And that’s precisely why fascists and commies are always trying to infest the body politic with N.E.R.E. Weights & Measures.

Info @

http://www.weights-and-measures.com

And topics:

old Avoirdupois Weight
Common Fluid Measure & Common Dry Measure

re (xcole): "That’s the whole basis of weights and measures, and has been since weights and measures were invented more than 8000 yr. ago. In England there has been written authority for weights and measures since 965"

REPLY: The first recorded weights or measures were the dimensions God gave to Noah for building the ark. This event - the building of the ark - took place in around 2,350 BC, around 1,650 years after the creation of the world in 6 days. The prescribed dimensions of the ark were: 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits high. Laboratory experiments have since confirmed that these proportions are the ideal for promoting maximum stability in very rough water - i.e. better than aay other shape - namely length six times width, height one-tenth of the length, and three-fifths of breadth (try out a scale model in the bath).

The Anglo-Saxon ship of King Raedwald, buried with him at Sutton Hoo, measured exactly 90 feet by 15 feet. King Raedwald died in AD 630, round about the same time as the Prophet Mohammed.

There has been written authority for the use of Imperial, or 'customary' weights and measures since at least 390 BC, when King Moelmyd codified pre-existing British civil and criminal laws in what became known later as the Molmutine laws. No doubt King Raedwald's ship-builders and carpenters used tape measures in customary units when they built his now-famous ship

I'm not interested in unreproducible Biblical measures for which we have no good standards.

But a pint isn't a pound the world around. The Imperial pint, which got around more than the American pint, is 1.25 lb. (1 lb 4 oz to those who like mixed measure) because an Imperial gallon (8 pints) was defined as 10 lbs water under specified conditions.

The American pint is 473.176 473 mL, and the pound 453.592 37 g, so a pint is only a pound for something whose density is 0.9595 g/mL. Water is near 1 at maximum density, and 0.999 g/mLat 15 C or 60 F. Dry wine is around 0.99 g/mL, sweet wine around 1.008 g/mL; beer is also close to 1. So, exactly what are we talking a pint of?

Tony Bennett wrote

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The Anglo-Saxon ship of King Raedwald, buried with him at Sutton Hoo, measured exactly 90 feet by 15 feet. King Raedwald died in AD 630, round about the same time as the Prophet Mohammed.
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I always get suspicious when people use the word "exactly". On visiting http://www.wuffings.co.uk/MySHPages/SHTreasure/SHGhostShip.htm I found
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Its estimated original dimensions are that it was at least 89 feet long and up to 14 feet in the beam, with a prow perhaps 12.5 feet above the keel amidships.
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This suggests to me that Tony's use of the word "exactly" is mis-placed, though I will not dispute the 1:6 ratio for beam to length for good performance. As regards height, which height to we refer to?