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Simple, Direct & Non Classical

April 15 2008 at 11:17 AM
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Hi all,

What do these terms mean to you?

Thanks,

BIG Sean

 
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Dick Jeffries
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Simple, Direct & Non-classical

April 15 2008, 1:08 PM 

Hi Sean & everyone:

To me, many of the JKD moves are not necessarily
"simple" but, with continuous training, they
become spontaneous and "natural". Then, it is
no longer complex.

As far as "direct" goes, I like Bruce Lee's
illustration in his "Fighting Method Self-defense"
book of the wrist grab release. He doesn't waste
time breaking the hold and then hitting. He just
nails the guy in the face and both ends are
accomplished!

"Non-classical", to me, is the fact that we use
(per Bruce Lee's development of JKD) what works
in a fight, not a flowery tournament demonstration.
Also, hitting the groin, jabbing the eyes, etc.,
would not go over well in a tournament.

I would like to hear your responses and others
on the forum.

Good question!

Thanks,

Dick

 
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Simple, Direct & Non-Classical

April 15 2008, 1:17 PM 

Simple - Easy to execute, no complicated movements! Sometimes simple is easy to see and understand, yet very difficult to teach to others. People tend to tense up and overcomplicate, thinking that there has to be more to it than what they are seeing with their own eyes. The idea is to relax and flow!

Direct - Seek the most direct path to the target, right from the point of execution to the point of impact. As we all know, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Seek the straight line whenever possible! When that is not possible, seek the most economical curved line, straighten out the curve with body angulation, or use an immobilization (trap) to clear the straight line!

Non-Classical - Use whatever works to solve the problem, rather than sticking to the rigid dictations of a classical or traditional method of martial art. Evolve with time, seeking only that which works and suits you the best, rather than remaining stuck in the rigid traditions of the past! In other words, don't do what "master so and so" did two hundred and fifty years ago just because he did it that way and all of his followers said that is how it should be done! Of course, it is possible that is still the best way to do something, but chances are that either it has evolved within that system, or someone else from another art has discovered a better way! Non-classical is also an "attitude". Always remain open minded to the possibility of a better way, or better ways to train what you have, thus keeping the "non-classical attitude"!

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kent
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simply

April 15 2008, 1:45 PM 

using what works for you so that you can get the job done in the most efficent manner possible. Example of this would be last Saturday at the seminar with sifu Lamar we were using/training the hook kick as a response. The energy or rather the opening that one of my training partners was giving me allowed for a straight kick and not the hook kick. I kept getting the feeling that I was doing something wrong and could not seem to see or feel what it was till sifu pointed out that I was taking the most direct and correct kick based on the opening I was given. Through all the training that we have done I was taking the the simple and direct way without thinking about it. "It" took over and was doing. If I had been bound by classical movements I would not have been doing the drill correctly either way.

Kent

 
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Simple, Direct & Non Classical

April 15 2008, 3:12 PM 

Hi all,

Great answers all around. This is how I tend to look at them:

Simple: Not complicated in thought. Also called "Fistic Law". Meaning that in JKD our goal is to have ONE solution for many problems, as opposed to have 50 responses to one problem. I want to just 'do' without thinking and this "simple" process of thinking helps that. I am free to act because I am not caught up in decision making.

Direct: Straightest (or easiest) route or way to the target. If going in a straight line would cause a problem, then take the shortest curved route possible.

Non-Classical: I tend to look at "Non-Classical" in terms of rhythm. Bruce Lee was big on broken rhythm, which was rare in the martial arts community at the time. I think that this was his biggest fascination with boxing...its way of broken rhythm.

All the best,

BIG Sean

 
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angel kabul
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Re: Simple, Direct & Non Classical

April 16 2008, 1:55 AM 

it's been 35 years,I can not beleive your still asking that question.

 
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Hi Angel

April 16 2008, 7:12 AM 

Hi Angel,

"it's been 35 years,I can not beleive your still asking that question."

LOL, and I can't believe that at your age (assuming you are older than 12) that you still don't know how to spell "believe".

I was hoping to help generate some discussion on the forum. Lamar has done a good thing by getting rid of those pop up ads, and I hope his forum does better because of it.

BIG Sean

 
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hung doo
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Re: Hi Angel

April 16 2008, 7:16 AM 

Yeah, I always had a problem with that word and the word releive,good thing you spoted that because the next person who reads it might think that's correct and spell it wrong to.

 
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Andrew
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Re: Simple, Direct & Non Classical

April 16 2008, 9:25 AM 

Along with what everyone has posted here 1. ending the conflict in under 30 sec or 2. before your opponent knows it's over.

NO trash talking and making a scene just making sure the opponent is punch-drunk till it's safe and leaving. Like Sifu says no need to stick around to give the opponents friends or police your autograph for what just happen.

Positive Energy Activates Constant Elevation
P.E.A.C.E.

 
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simple , direct ,non classical & more

April 16 2008, 1:08 PM 


i think those words mean what they mean :P i never had to ask myself what they mean cause it seemed clear to me.


something i would put whit those tree terms is :


simple and trying to acheive an extreme mastery of the simplicity , direct & non classical.


i think one of the strong point of jkd is that it doesnt have sooo many tuff material to memorize and they can be performed by almost almost everyones.

its not like in other arts that the more you get far in it the more the techniques becaume physicaly difficult like jumping kick or flying armbars.
the idea to me in jkd is that you practice and refine simple techniques like lets say the hook kick day afther day till you totally control it , it can sound easy but it is not.

to me thats a very important part of jkd philosophy in aplication but its not in the important basic writings so many persons that have interest in jkd try to get or research complicate fast afther covering the basics.


ok hope i make sense whit my medium english :P

a plus guys!

 
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wondering

June 24 2008, 12:41 AM 

i am aparapeligic male whom loves martial arts i am inmoble from the waist down was wondering if its possible to learn the art just for upper body and if learned could it be affective in a self defence situation according to bruce seems nothing is impossible i wish he was here to show me himself

 
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Anonymous
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Re: wondering

June 24 2008, 12:52 AM 

Get a concealed weapons permit for self defense.
Then train all you want it's more fun.

 
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