This isn't aimed at you Dave, since I've said all this before long ago, and it's not my goal to change your mind. But it is my goal to make you look foolish every time you provide the ammo for it. So this is for all the lurker(s) who may be passing through.
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And you're also absolutely sure that no amount of careful, scientific research will ever turn up solid evidence as to what the TRULY unknown flying entities are? And you're even more convinced that under no circumstances could they possibly be non-terrestrial spcecraft.
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Nothing said in this thread so far is a logical antecedent to the two questions DTW asks above. They merely show him twisting what anyone said in his typical and hackneyed way to suit his intentions. Or (more likely?) trolling like usual.
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Gentlemen, no-one who waves the Banner of Science should ever be that sure of anything!
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Almost anything imaginable is impossible compared to the relatively few things that comply with laws of physics. At will, I can cough up reams of garbage, as people do every day, it is the easiest thing in the world to spew forth ideas and proposition that don't even have a low probability of being true. The world is awash in garbage. One can build the foundation of your weltanschauung on a floating see of garbage, where you believe that all things may be possible, like reincarnation, astrology, homeopathy, ghosts, candling, etc. and every once in a rare while you can step on something that looks like it will sink and you will actually be standing. Or one can take the opposite approach and stand on what is real and use it as a foundation to discover what else is real while dismissing the distracting dross of the improbable and only on rare occasions be wrong in doing so.
It is no wonder that DTW believes in reincarnation. His foundation is a swamp of untruths and impossibilities. Every new impossible idea looks like it may be OK after you accept that anything may be true. He has chosen this and yet he is smart enough to chose otherwise. Go figure everyone. Once one believes that anything is possible, well, I guess, ... anything is possible to you. Some people say; "anything is possible". When it is said in the metaphorical sense, OK, I get it, and I'm right there with them. But some say "anything is possible" and literally mean it. This definitely ranks up there with the dumbest thing anyone can say.
DTW's foundation of garbage makes him unprovably wrong all the time. My foundation of science makes me hardly ever wrong. DTW is basically a pussy, I've said this before, this is not an ad hominem attack, it is an explanation of why he has his point of view. He is afraid to be wrong. He can have his unfalsifiable beliefs indefinitely and never be proven wrong. He has a safe haven of mush. On the other hand, people making assertions based on known laws of physics are going to be provably right or wrong all the time. DTW doesn't want to even be wrong rarely. I don't give a crap about the rare times that I am wrong since it takes so little effort for me to be right with my approach.
I must add here, that if I was a researcher/scientist, (and occasionally when I am researching at work) then I would (and do) have a different point of view. You can't find the rare unexpected truths if you don't let every idea flow in to the mix with equal impartiality.
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You are also the reason that organized skepticism (AKA: "True Disbelief") continues to experience a "Skeptical about Skeptics" backlash!
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DTW is just plain silly here. No one even knows who I am except for a few people on this board and outside of it. And I am happy with that and don't do things to try to change that. I am not speaking for the others, but I am guessing it is similar for them. We have nothing to do with any movement. I feel safe saying that about Ray, maybe Brain will correct me if I'm wrong about him.
But if I could, by fiat, divert $10,000,000 dollars spent worldwide on studying "ghosts" (or pick your favorite garbage, baseless, belief) every year, instead to fortifying critical thinking at an early level in schools, guess which way would have a greater impact on the broadening of knowledge and truth?
---Al
