FRIESIAN HORSES

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This forum was designed to incite discussion between Friesian lovers from accross the country (AND overseas!). Any opinion is welcome here and will be respected by others. As you know, Friesian people are respectful and kind to one another, no matter what their breeding - so keep it courteous, clean, and ENJOY!!

Curious

Hi, I love this breed so much! I am wondering if there is any crossbreeding? I have been trying to find out but haven't had much luck. I own a quarter horse who is my baby and I have always dreamed of owning a Friesian. So I thought, breed my horse to one and there you go, dream come true.

So, if someone could help me out with this, I would really really appreciate it. Thanks!

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You can crossbreed Friesians. Go to this webpage: www.proudmeadows.com and it kinda talks about it.

-Wendy

Posted on Jan 30, 2000, 9:09 AM
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by T.M.

Where are you located? I know of some stallions who are crossbreeding.

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Crossbreeding

We have 7 stallions available for crossbreeding. Also, on our website which Wendy told you about (thanks Wendy), there is a section on crossbreeding. If you go to the bottom of that page and click on Large Pictures, there are several pictures of our crosses.

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Showing Question

I have been interested in friesians for a long time, but my curiosity has taken over and I had to write. My Thoroughbred and I always show with our mane braded and our fetlocks clipped, but with the beautiful Friesian breed, the long hairs are icing on the cake. Do you just groom them and let them fly? Or do you brade and clip a certain way?

Also, this is a long shot, but does anyone know of any Friesian or Friesian Crossbreeds for Dressage in Montana?

Thanks!
-Wendy

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Showing a Friesian

by Julie

Hi Wendy,
You got it! Generally, Friesians are shown au-naturale, feathers and all. Occaisionally, the mane is braided in a Continental type braid. And there is some debate about the feathers. Most Friesian enthusiasts would agree that to clip the feathers is to insult the horse! But a few people say that judges do not like feathers, and the rare individual will clip them off (FOR SHAME!).
The Friesian hair is part of its magical beauty and the horse should be shown with all of it intact and unbound.

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I agree

To clip a Friesians feathers is like taking away the color in a sunset, as corney as that may sound. :) I think that if I was a Friesian owner, I would definately leave them natural for showing. Thanks for replying!

-Wendy

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What about hair on the chin?

by CindyLu

I totally agree about not clipping feathers, bridle path, ears, etc. My Friesian's chin is just so darn hairy. What do you think about clipping the hair there?

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by Laurie

You should present your horse in any show to his or her best advantage. This does indeed mean clipping the muzzle, ears, chins, legs above the knees, etc. For a Friesian the acceptable way to present is with full mane, forelock, fetlocks, and mustache if he has one. A bridle path, although not used in the Netherlands, can be cut or not depending on your preference. The ears should be clipped and neat. In Friesland, the stallions are trimmed around the sheath, and the long hairs on the neck, face and body are burned off with a candle. It is alright in the Netherlands to apply a bit of black shoepolish or baby oil to highlight the horse. It's all part of showing to best advantage and, even though you can't expect to "fool" the judge, it shows you care about the appearance of your horse. Feather should be neat and combed but not cut. I have seen last year a trend toward catering to judges by trimming all but the very back of the fetlock hair. This is a very artificial look and personally revolting. If the judge can't understand what a Friesian should look like, than who cares how they judge him/her? Just my opinion. Most Friesian owners spend more time clipping and primping their Friesian for shows than they ever did any other breed.

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Clipping Friesians

In the past, the Dutchmen considered it bad luck to clip any hair on the horses, but at the recent Hengsten Keuring in Leuwaarden, most of the stallions being presented were clipped on the chin and jowl, the ears were clipped flat, but not cleaned out. Long hairs on the inside of the legs were clipped to about knee level. If it is good enough for the Dutch Friesian Stallions, it's good enough for my horses. Hope this helps.

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by Winki

I clip the facial hairs off of my guy, it tidies him up a bit and enhances the look of his handsome head. I don't cut a bridle path, the halter's buckles are on the opposite side of the neck to the natural fall of his mane, so there's no catching or pulling.

A lot of people use Black As Knight to enhance the coat. I'd rather use dye. Just my opinion. To each her own, n'est pas?

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where do you get dye

by Anonymous

Dye for friesians? i have never heard of the sort! Please fill me in on the info! Does this bother is coat. I want my horse to have a nice smooth show coat as well. Please let me know!

Posted on Apr 12, 2000, 12:25 PM
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Re: where do you get dye

by Anonymous

Dyeing your Friesian is against the rules for a Dutch Keuring. You may be disqualified.

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Urgent Help needed concerning my Friesian

I have a 17.2 Friesian gelding and I need to find out an approximate weight in Kilograms to administer medicine Could you please e mail me with any calculated guesses

Posted on Jan 8, 2000, 2:32 PM
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medication?

by nell

Why don't you ask your veterinarian? Who prescribed the medication?

Posted on Jan 13, 2000, 12:22 PM
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curious

Steve I agree that your vet is the person to answer about administering the right dosage. I'm curious where you bought your Friesion from. I'm interested in the traditional type with more height since I'm a tall and large boned women. Any POCs you can help me with?
Thanks for your help!

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by Suzy

There are 2.2 pounds per kilogram

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What to look for?

Hi,
I am considering buying a Friesian. What should I look for before I buy. I do not want to spend a fortune. I would prefer acquiring a filly for pleasure riding, a bit of showing, and maybe eventually for breeding.Can anyone help?

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What to Look For

by Julie

Kathy,
You wont find a Friesian unless you ARE willing to spend a fortune. You wont find one for less than $7,500 (a foal). That is the starting price, which goes up from there, depending on age and training.

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Happy Holidays

by Dia

A Merry christmas & Happy New Year to Everyone around the World.....

* A Fairie Tail Farm *
The Frosts ; David, Did & Sydney

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Breeding for sale

Anyone interested in a breeding to Nero? I bought the breeding last year and then my mare died; I found a replacement but she wouldn't settle. I am currently looking for a replacement mare, or the way things have gone for me; to sell the breeding to someone with more luck than me!!:). (anyone have a mare to lease?)

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Re: Breeding for Sale

We have an unregistered mare (Peruvian Paso?) that has been breed three previous times to a full blooded Friesian and all three times has produced beautiful babies. We have the product of the last breeding and he is a beauty and 6 months old now. We have been concidering selling Athena and never really thought to lease her. If interested let us know. Good luck. I love the breed and one day hope to have a full blooded one.

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Breeding for Sale

by T.M.

Where do you live? I have a nice Bay Arabian Mare that I would like to Lease for breeding to a Friesian. We are located close to Sacramento, Ca.

Posted on Feb 5, 2000, 7:31 PM
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Nero

by Diane

Thanks for the response. I found an arabian mare that I didn't have to drive a million miles for! I live in northern MN. The mare I found is a bay. Anyone have any idea what my chances are of getting a black foal?? I can't wait:)

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by morgan

The gene that causes the black pigment to be confined to the points ( the gene that causes a horse to be bay) is dominant over the black gene. So if the mare is homozygous for the bay gene she will always throw bay foals when bred to a black. If she is heterozygous then your chances are 50/50. There is no way to tell by looking at her if she's heterozygous or homozygous.

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FRIESIANS ABUSED AT SOUTH AFRICAN GOVT.STUD

I have already posted a letter at www.friesiannews.com.about this issue,so please visit the site to read the full story. But in essence this is the situation: govt. owned stud with some of the best friesian bloodlines in SA is not feeding or caring for their horses to such an extent that over 40 horses have died in the past 11 months. You guys know how little a friesian can manage on, so to starve a friesian to death takes a lot of neglect. The video footage is horrifying to view. Go read my letter for the details. What I ask of you is to write to the addresses I have supplied and add your support to the drive to close the stud down. The SPCA is too afraid to confiscate the horses in case they are sued by the govt. So they are a bit like toothless bulldogs at the moment. So it is up to friesian lovers such as ourselves to write and show that such abuse of horses by a govt. that actually passed a animal protection act in its own parliament, is just not acceptable. Please respond and don't just think of it as another's problem...I read on the FPS site that there are only 25000 friesians registered with them worldwide - well there used to be about 102 friesians at this stud. In Feb. there were 58, and by Nov. another 9 had died. So act before I have to inform you of more deaths. On a more cheerful note let me tell you of my latest friesian buy (I have one 3yr old colt, one 11 month old filly and one 7 month colt already). About 6 weeks ago, I was told of a friesian for sale in an area about 100kms from my home. Friesians are very rare in my part of SA, there's only 4 of us in the whole province so far. Anyway, I went to go see and there was this pale brown mangy thin and very broken down looking 13 yr old. he looked terrible, but something in that head and eye just caught me and I bought him for R600 (about $100!). I fed him up, loved him a lot, renamed him from Hitler to Kent and I now own a beautiful black shining mass of pure friesian splendour! I traced back asfar as I could all his previous owners and he originally came from an area that bred what is now the top mare in the country. There wa only one stud in the area at the time of his birth, so although I'll not ever be able to get his papers ( the stud is long gone), I think he is from good stock. He's still not 100% sure of people, but a friend who studied under Pat Parelli (natural horse-man-ship) is helping me reverse the damage. In one session he went from bucking us off to allowing Pippa to ride him with no saddle, no bridle- just a lead rein and a hackamore! Anyway, help us to rescue more friesians in SA. WRITE!!! bye, Carl. PS. although my name is Carl, I am a girl!

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I read your story. I am not sure as to what part of the World you live, however it doesn't much matter. People who neglect something so badly whether it be human or animal should be destroyed. Once about 15 years ago my family came across a starved horse. She was just a mungral but none the less her hip bones were stuck up so high they could pop a balloon. I remember how sad I felt seeing that poor animal. We purchased her for I think $100 - $200 dollars (I can't quite remember) anyway we had her for about a year. We finally had to have her destryed because the vet said she was so far gone she had no back teeth for chewing and her bones had started to deteriorate. What a sad thing - to think some humans are like that to makes me sick. I am a true blue Friesian Lover and the thought of one of those incredibly Majestic animals in such sad shape is deplorable. Maybe the SPCA should stop being so afraid of their own shadows and do the job they are there for. They are just as guilty as the government if they don't do anything. Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion.

Roberta Pumphrey

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Abused friesians

carl,
Is there anyway possible on aquiring one of these neglected animals and giving it a new start...where do I start! Also where do I write to protest it....they are way to beautiful to have such horrible lives!

Jody

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message for Jody

Hi Jody. I assume that you are South African otherwise you wouldn't ask about acquiring one of these horses. The latest development about the stud was that the majority of the horses were going to be handed over to the Mounted Police horse unit and the rest of the old mares either put down (because it's the most humane option) or those whose health will improve, to be given to appropriate homes. This is supposed to be happening soon, but I'm afraid that until it happens I will not be holding my breath. If you wish to give the horse rescue unit your support phone Bev at 016 3623587...she's the lady in charge of the rescue attempt. For more details see my original letter on the friesian news site.
Thanks for showing concern for these animals...much appreciated. Carl

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Carl,
Actually I live in Florida, USA, but that doest stop my love for the animal!....off hand do you know if they would allow a rescue so far away....I know that the horse would have a loving home for the rest of its life....

Thanks
Jody

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SA friesian jody

Hi Jody. I don't think that they would. The best mares will be sent to the police breeding program..what's left over will be either shot or homed. Even the ones to be homed will be weak and not able to travel far distances...I live 1000kms from the stud and therefore I don't hold out much hope to get one. Also re. export, you must remember we have a nasty virus called African Horse Sickness...it can kill a horse in 12 hours and a herd within a week, and these horses might carry it because they are in a area where it is present and considering how badly they were looked after, one must assume their innoculations aren't up to date. So big risk for you, big risk for the horse. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

bye, Carl

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HORSES ABUSED

SAD TO HERE BOUT HORSES IN SA. IM HERE IN CALIFORNIA IN U.S.A. IF I NEED TO SIGN OR SEND ANYTHING TO HELP LET ME KNOW.

Posted on May 1, 2000, 9:26 PM
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Friesian cruelty

Dearest Carl,
My name is Nancy,and I was out raged after reading your article about the situation in SA.I
first noticed there was a breed of horse called a Friesian purely by accident.Before I had never seen one or even heard of them.I was instantly in love,they are so beautiful. I instantly started obtaining all the info I could on them. I had desided that they were the horse of my dreams.All the breeders here in the USA charge alot for their horses.When they are just weanlings the price starts out at around$6000.00 and up depending on the horses ancestry.My dream of owning one was fast becoming just that,A DREAM.But then I noticed your article and wondered if just maybe there is a way that I can.I would love to rescue one of them.I have an ocean of love to give,and an equally big heart to receive that love back.I am not a breeder or showman,just someone who has loved and admired horses since I was a very small child.I don't know if there is any help you can give in this matter,but if there is please let me know.It would fullfill my dream and give a chance possibly to one of those abused horses that so despirately need someone to care!You have my e-mail address,but just in case you can't reach me that way here is my street address:
18021 Jordan St S.W Rochester,Washington 98579
Please R.S.V.P promptly,I'm anxious to receive your reply.Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Nancy Daniel
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Friesian cruelty

Dearest Carl,
My name is Nancy,and I was out raged after reading your article about the situation in SA.I
first noticed there was a breed of horse called a Friesian purely by accident.Before I had never seen one or even heard of them.I was instantly in love,they are so beautiful. I instantly started obtaining all the info I could on them. I had desided that they were the horse of my dreams.All the breeders here in the USA charge alot for their horses.When they are just weanlings the price starts out at around$6000.00 and up depending on the horses ancestry.My dream of owning one was fast becoming just that,A DREAM.But then I noticed your article and wondered if just maybe there is a way that I can.I would love to rescue one of them.I have an ocean of love to give,and an equally big heart to receive that love back.I am not a breeder or showman,just someone who has loved and admired horses since I was a very small child.I don't know if there is any help you can give in this matter,but if there is please let me know.It would fullfill my dream and give a chance possibly to one of those abused horses that so despirately need someone to care!You have my e-mail address,but just in case you can't reach me that way here is my street address:
18021 Jordan St S.W Rochester,Washington 98579
Please R.S.V.P promptly,I'm anxious to receive your reply.Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Nancy Daniel
e-mail valdan1991@juno.com

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Friesian cruelty

Dearest Carl,
My name is Nancy,and I was out raged after reading your article about the situation in SA.I
first noticed there was a breed of horse called a Friesian purely by accident.Before I had never seen one or even heard of them.I was instantly in love,they are so beautiful. I instantly started obtaining all the info I could on them. I had desided that they were the horse of my dreams.All the breeders here in the USA charge alot for their horses.When they are just weanlings the price starts out at around$6000.00 and up depending on the horses ancestry.My dream of owning one was fast becoming just that,A DREAM.But then I noticed your article and wondered if just maybe there is a way that I can.I would love to rescue one of them.I have an ocean of love to give,and an equally big heart to receive that love back.I am not a breeder or showman,just someone who has loved and admired horses since I was a very small child.I don't know if there is any help you can give in this matter,but if there is please let me know.It would fullfill my dream and give a chance possibly to one of those abused horses that so despirately need someone to care!You have my e-mail address,but just in case you can't reach me that way here is my street address:
18021 Jordan St S.W Rochester,Washington 98579
Please R.S.V.P promptly,I'm anxious to receive your reply.Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Nancy Daniel
e-mail valdan1991@juno.com

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Friesian cruelty

Dearest Carl,
My name is Nancy,and I was out raged after reading your article about the situation in SA.I
first noticed there was a breed of horse called a Friesian purely by accident.Before I had never seen one or even heard of them.I was instantly in love,they are so beautiful. I instantly started obtaining all the info I could on them. I had desided that they were the horse of my dreams.All the breeders here in the USA charge alot for their horses.When they are just weanlings the price starts out at around$6000.00 and up depending on the horses ancestry.My dream of owning one was fast becoming just that,A DREAM.But then I noticed your article and wondered if just maybe there is a way that I can.I would love to rescue one of them.I have an ocean of love to give,and an equally big heart to receive that love back.I am not a breeder or showman,just someone who has loved and admired horses since I was a very small child.I don't know if there is any help you can give in this matter,but if there is please let me know.It would fullfill my dream and give a chance possibly to one of those abused horses that so despirately need someone to care!You have my e-mail address,but just in case you can't reach me that way here is my street address:
18021 Jordan St S.W Rochester,Washington 98579
Please R.S.V.P promptly,I'm anxious to receive your reply.Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Nancy Daniel
e-mail valdan1991@juno.com

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Stop the ABUSE!!!!!

Please let me know how I can help???!!!

Stop the abuse and neglect of those powerful, proud animals!!! They give us their whole souls, minds and bodies, how can someone abuse that privelage??
I makes me furious.. They deserve better, better, better. We do not deserve their kindness and love. Please let me know how I can help, in ANY way.

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Draft horses

Hello!
I'm a horse lover and I would like to know where I could find more information about breeds, and especially draft horses, which are my passion.

Posted on Nov 30, 1999, 12:34 PM
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Draft list

Try joining draftndrive@onelist.com Some of the folks are in the tourist carriage driving biz, and some show. Also try Mischka.com
Karey

Posted on Dec 11, 1999, 8:15 AM
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Friesian Health problems

I am going to be a proud owner of my first friesian and I would like to know if any of you out there could tell me if there is any common health problems with this breed. What about feed? I am from California. What is the best diet for them. I am not familiar with the bigger horses I mainly deal with the Arabians. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Friesian Health

by Julie

Friesians are fairly sound animals. Some of the more discussed Friesian ailments seem to be that they are slightly more susceptable to getting colic and that their symptoms tend to be not so easily spotted... but as with all breeds, it varies. I also know that Friesians are prone to getting "scratches", due to the feathers.
As with any horse, the area in which you live has a lot to do with health problems and feeding. For instance, or horse that lives in a more moist area is more prone to scratches than a horse who lives in a dry region.
Same goes for feed. I keep my Froesian at pasture in the summer months, with little if any supplimental feeding, then I start her on Timothy grass and sweet feed (no corn) in the winter. The only special note on feed that I can think of is alphalpha. For some reason, this seems to make Friesians a bit "nuts". I know of people who do feed alphalpha, but they use VERY little, and only to supplement regular hay which may be lower in nutrition.

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Thanks Julie!

Thank you for your information. So the best thing is to keep them on a good Timothy or grass type hay and feed very little or no alfalfa at all? Unfortunately, I don't have pastures with grass, at least not for the next year. We are working on that. I feed my horses right now a supplement called Dynamite Specialty Products. Its incredible on the other breeds that I have. They have a whole assortment of other supplemental products too. Have you ever feed alfalfa cubes with them before. I usually feed cubes once a day and timothy the other.

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To Tammy Mendonca

Hi Tammy,
we too use Dynamite supplements, and it's great.
Friesians are easy keepers, so be careful that you don't overfeed.
We feed grass hay, and let them out in the pasture a couple of hours a day in the winter,
only 2 hours a day in the summer.
I've never fed cubes before, so I don't know how to use that.
Are you a member of FHANA yet?
Take a look at my Web page: http://www.outlawnet.com/~thissen
Take care, Tina

Posted on Dec 15, 1999, 8:13 PM
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Tack for Friesians

Does anyone know where I can find the white leather halters or bridle or other tack for Friesians? Maybe even the fancy bridles or costumes?

Thanks!

Posted on Nov 22, 1999, 9:30 PM
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White halters

I know that you can get the white halters through the Feathered Horse. http://www.featheredhorse.com

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