This forum was designed to incite discussion between Friesian lovers from accross the country (AND overseas!). Any opinion is welcome here and will be respected by others. As you know, Friesian people are respectful and kind to one another, no matter what their breeding - so keep it courteous, clean, and ENJOY!!
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Please help me, I'm looking for the freisianonelist....does anyone know where I can get a link up??
Posted on Aug 26, 1999, 8:05 PM from IP address 208.7.247.198
go to http://www.onelist.com
then go to animals, from there go
to horses. Type in Friesians.
You will come to a screen telling you how to subscribe as a new member.
Easy :-))
Posted on Sep 4, 1999, 10:19 PM from IP address 209.240.200.121
If anyone has any training tricks they know that teaches a young horse respect, please let me know. I've trotted my filly a bit in the round pen, but feel she still doesn't QUITE get it. She still steps on me when leading and still tried to be too close to me. I'd appreciate any tips.
Posted on Aug 4, 1999, 10:40 AM from IP address 192.58.199.29
This may sound cruel, but it worked teaching my horse to load, and many trainers I know suggested it. Buy a stud chain, or a chain dog collar. Attach it to her halter, and make sure it winds around the top of her nose. Attach the other end to the lead. Make her walk forward. If she steps on you or balks, jerk quickly on the lead rope, which digs the collar into the nose of the horse. A few jerks like this, they are totally respondent. My horse figured it out very quick. Horses are just naturally brats, like mine was until he respected me. Sometimes it takes pain. Note: Do NOT tie horse up with dog collar on the lead unless you want to break his nose. Also, do not hold the lead down when reprimanding the horse, just one quick jerk. If your horse gets some welts in the nose, this is normal. Try it. It works and she will listen to you from that day forth. My horse does.
Amber
Posted on Aug 6, 1999, 10:09 PM from IP address 205.188.198.171
Thanks Amber, I may try that. I've done a little round pen work with her and she is getting better. I was afraid of doing round pen work because everyone said she was too young and I would ruin her legs. But I noticed how she goes careening around in the pasture and cutting up and thought, "If she's doing that so much, how come I can't trot her a bit in the pen without her legs getting hurt?" So I trotted her a bit. It took me several days to where she got the idea that if she didn't move when asked, she got the lunge whip on the croup. Now she moves by just waving the whip. I also notice she is more respectful now too. But sometimes she tries to test me...I think the nose chain might come in handy then. Thanks for the advice!
Posted on Aug 25, 1999, 8:58 AM from IP address 192.58.199.27
Hi there Julie...hope things are progressing with your filly. Although I do agree with Amber about the chain, I would be careful with how you attach it to your horses halter. It should go through the ring on the left side (where you normally lead from), then up over the halter's noseband (to avoid too much damage to the nose), then through and out the right side ring (off side), take it up and snap to the ring that attaches to the crown piece. That way when the chain is jerked to get some attention, it doesn't pull her halter over into her eye and you get a little more even contact.
Also, when you are leading her, carry a short crop or bat(crop with a larger leather end) in your leading hand, to tap her chest with. You don't want to cut her with a too sharp whip, just something that will SOUND awful. The strength of the tap will depend on just how rambuncious she is being.
I'm training a stud colt right now, who at first, was being a terrible little man. Trying to bite my leading hand or rush ahead of me. A few loud, quick whacks on his chest stopped his rushing (and dragging) behaviour fairly quickly. No fighting, struggeling or big deal should be made...just a quick..."Hey! Listen up, I'm in charge" attitude. Arguing with them at this young age doesn't do much good anyway, their attention span isn't long. Stop lesson time just as soon as you get a good response, leave the time you spend together training on a good note. Some days I only work with the babies for 10 minutes, happy with a little progress (like picking up feet or desensitizing ticklish spots). Then there are days we can go for longer times...maybe 30 minutes of light work, leading correctly, tying, moving over, etc. Take your time and don't rush it...she'll get better. I've found the smart ones give you a bit more trouble cause they think too much. Probably your little girl! Good Luck to you both... :o)
Posted on Aug 26, 1999, 9:31 AM from IP address 208.176.76.138
After reading about the stud chains over the nose, I had to put my 2 cents in. I was told to never put the chain over the nose by my Friesian trainer because it could make a permanent bump on the nose. Whether it could or not, I don't know, but I don't want to take the chance. I always run it under the chin (or use a lip chain). And when they act up, you shank them back and make them back up a few feet. That's they're punishment. They hate it and it usually doesn't take long to get positive behavior out of them. And when they're good you give them positive attention, like a little rub or scratch (friesian's love this!)
Posted on Sep 14, 1999, 8:43 PM from IP address 152.163.201.79
Julie,
The USDF produces and sells a fantastic tape about showing in hand. This tape can teach you how to use your whip as an aid while on the ground and leading. Excellent suggestions on how to start laterals and other movements you will use later when mounted, they also learn that it and you are nothing to be feared. It will show yu proper usage of a " stud chain " when used or needed. It also has great pointers on " your space " and " their space "
I highly suggest it to anyone dealing with young horses.
Posted on Sep 10, 1999, 1:38 PM from IP address 209.26.29.9
I was wondering if the friesians have any problems with their backs? Scince they seem to be recommemded to use mostly for carrige I thought that maybe it would be uncomfortable for them to have a rider.
Also, I have never heard anything on the livespan of the Friesian. Is it average, or shorter or unpredectible?
Thanks alot! :o)
Posted on Jul 25, 1999, 10:10 AM from IP address 204.60.41.136
First....let me say I appreciate this new forum....I just love to show off our crosses and brag on them.
We have 4 Friesian/Arabian crosses as this time. All are by the Friesian stallion, DAEN. Our first cross convinced us to stop breeding purebred Arabians. We love the look and personality of the crosses and one day would love to convert totally to breeding Friesians. But until then, we will love and enjoy our crosses. Our first crossbred is now 5 years old and is a dream come true. She rides and drives and pretty much tells us what she wants us to do. SHe is so gentle and loving but yet very willing to do anything we ask. She is a regular chow hound.
Last year we had our first homebred crossbred. Rain Daencer is a black bay with an elegant look, tremendous movement and the personality and willingness of the Friesian. She is 14.3 and growing like a weed. BUt yet she is so balanced and correct......need I say more?
This year we had two Friesian/Arabian crosses. One is a black filly and the other is a gray colt. He is tremendous! He is so beautiful, it is hard to believe. Movement to die for and those same elegant looks.
Next year we will have three DAEN babies. Two will be Arabian crosses and the third will be out of our bay tobiano Arabian/Saddlebred mare. That is a baby that my husband biting his nails over. We rescued the mare a year ago and she has been his baby. Currently while she is awaiting her 2000 foal, she is learning to ride and drive.
Thank you for letting me brag...sorry if I have offended anyone.
Toni
http://members.aol.com/tntarab/sport.htm
Posted on Jul 22, 1999, 9:31 AM from IP address 205.188.198.186
I have been thinking of breeding my arb. to a stallion she is rather large for an arb. not typee at all except for her head. do you have any pic. of your crew.
Posted on Mar 8, 2000, 12:37 PM from IP address 208.18.95.136
Hi, I was just wondering about breeding my 15.2 hand bay Saddlebred mare to Nero, the dressage Friesian. Would the resulting foal be able to jump without danger? Would it make a good game horse, or be to large? Would chances be the foal would be black? Also, is there any registry out there I could register this cross with? Thanks.
Posted on Jul 18, 1999, 10:03 PM from IP address 152.163.204.202
The resulting foal should have no problem being able to jump. I'm not sure which type of gaming you are refering to, but probably not the greatest for barrels. On the color, it really depends on the mare. If your mare is bay the odds are it would be dark bay, BUT you still can get black from a bay mare. Chestnut you have a really good chance at black but could get bay also. Nero to my knowledge has never thrown a chestnut foal. IF your mare is black, well your odds are pretty darn good you will get black. Also, Nero is a qualified stallion for the American Warmblood Society, and I beleive I seen a Friesian Sprothorse registry that resently was started. Hope I answered some of your questions. Nero is absolutley georgous.
Posted on Aug 26, 1999, 10:46 AM from IP address 208.195.243.163
Julie- I saw your book in the store! It looks great! I may buy the next time I go to the bookstore.
Also, I made a site and I need to ask you if it is Ok on a few things. I have the pic of the friesian on your main page, I hope that is alright. Also I have a link to your site on my favorite sites and on the friesian sites page.And last, could I use the pics from the pic pages on your site? Thanks. If you say no to any of these I understand.
Alright this is for everyone!- Please check out my site! It has a friesian forum too and lots of info. on friesians.(but not as much as this great site!) I also have classified ads if you want to post your horse there. Thanks alot!
Posted on Jul 16, 1999, 4:18 PM from IP address 204.60.41.65
I'm sorry it took me so long to respond. Unfortunately, all of the pictures on my webpage come from other people who have donated them and are copyright protected. Therefore, I cannot give permission to anyone to use them. Perhaps if you tell me about a particular picture you would like to use, I can see if I still have the info on it and ask the person directly.
Posted on Sep 8, 1999, 11:49 AM from IP address 192.58.199.27
Hello I was wondering if anyone is looking for next years foal. I have 4 mares bred for next spring and also a 3/4 Friesian foal due in about 4 weeks if it is a filly it will be offered up for sale. I would be interested in delivering the foals to their new homes if anyone is interested. The will cost between $2,000 and $3,500 Thanks FF
Posted on Jul 11, 1999, 5:31 PM from IP address 209.152.68.114
hello-
im writing you about the friesians for sale ummm..... if one of your for mares have a colt
"jet black" perfered between $2,500 and $3,500!!!
please feel free to write me back at the address below!!!
internet: Chatterchik99@yahoo.com
or at
311 DOROTHY AVE.
FAIRVIEW, PA
16415
and 1 question: were are you from and delivering to northwest PA (Erie area)
Thank You-
Erica Lee
Posted on Sep 3, 1999, 9:55 PM from IP address 208.31.4.106
I am interested in a friesian/thoroughbred or friesian/morgan cross. Preferably black, some white okay. Also, do you have a website where the stallions and mares can be viewed?
Thanks
Jackie
Posted on Jul 4, 2001, 5:03 PM from IP address 207.177.31.131
A friend of mine visited the home of the stallion Bendert, and she says that he is very hot-tempered and has kicked holes in the walls of his stall, just to get attention. Perhaps he was handled poorly, but doesn't also genetics play a role in how a horse behaves?
Posted on Jun 15, 1999, 9:49 AM from IP address 192.58.199.26
I also have visited Bendert. I also have a Bendert son and have visited and know well his son, the Approved Stallion Pilgrim. I have two Pilgrim 2 year olds. I don't think you can use the word "mean" to describe what your friend may have seen. Bendert is a willing, performance oriented horse. Many of his offspring are also performance horses. This means they are smart and have a great deal of flash in the show ring. This means they some times need a consistent handler. But what breed of horses out there doesn't have individuals of all kinds. Bendert may have been inside alot at the time of your friend's visit, or he may have had visiting mares or new horses added to the farm. Also horses that smart soon figure out that they get attention if they do something like bang - learned behavior. None of which makes a "mean" horse. I can assure you that all the Bendert offspring I have met and worked with are wonderful animals with their own personalities.
Posted on Jun 17, 1999, 12:29 PM from IP address 128.226.188.37