FRIESIAN HORSES



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This forum was designed to incite discussion between Friesian lovers from accross the country (AND overseas!). Any opinion is welcome here and will be respected by others. As you know, Friesian people are respectful and kind to one another, no matter what their breeding - so keep it courteous, clean, and ENJOY!!

Want to breed mare

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Hi, I have a buckskin mare. She is half quarter horse/one fourth saddlebred/and one fourth arabian. I would like to breed her to a friesan stallion. Do you think it is a good idea? I am looking for a dressage prospect, and the mare would be good for dressage. I would like to breed her to the stallion Dante. Please post your comments.

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Looking Ahead For Employment!

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I am looking for a live work position on a ranch. I would to work with Friesians if possible, but an open to other opportunities.

I am a Licensed Massage Therapist and would like to apply my skills to horses. I would also like to work on a ranch where I can learn everything there is to learn about horses. Gentling, training, health, etc.

I am a hard worker. I also have two wonderful dogs who would be with me. If you or anyone you know needs help, please let me know. I will be available in October as I am working for a clinician for the summer!

Thanks, Karen ":O)


Posted on Jan 10, 2001, 5:22 PM
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new to friesians

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Hi,
I am considering purchasing a Friesian. I am an accomplished rider having shown through Grand Prix, and am looking for a new horse to bring up levels. I am impressed with the movement and personality of these horses, but am not very knowledgable about the breed, and am looking for information from breeders (reputable only please!) and from dressage riders about the breed and their experiences. I live in Florida for the winters, but would be willing to ship/import the right horse. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Posted on Jan 10, 2001, 11:58 AM
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Advice on Friesians

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I, myself do not breed Friesians but i recently became aware of the breed about 2yrs ago when my local yard asked me to ride a 4yr old. In a couple of months i had fallen in love with Danny when i heard some news that he was for sale. i pleaded and begged with my mum and stepdad to buy him as i am only 15. They eventually gave in and my now 5yr old Friesian gelding is my perfect gentleman! he is a bit taller than your average size (nearly 17hh!) but is showing lots of promise in dressage and cross country. if you are considering purchasing one of these beautiful horses i suggest you do so. they are always willing to work & enjoy the company of people. there are many videos around so you can look at their dressage potential, i'm sure you'll be impressed. a good website to look on is www.friesians4all.com/. if you click on the Tristans part of it you will see my lad! they will be very helpful and have many Friesians for sale on the website. hope this has been of some use to you.

Posted on Jan 11, 2001, 10:50 AM
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Dressage Friesians

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I don't do dressage but I have looked into it now that I'm buying a friesian. They are just so perfect for the sport and I like to help a horse excel at what it likes to do. There is a barn in Texas i believe, I'll give you the name when I can find it, who specialize in Friesians bred for dressage. They're known as froreward moving Friesians. Make sure you work with a breeder/trainer/imported who is knowledgeable about this because not all friesians have a dressage abitiy despite the fast that they natually have beautiful gates (like all horses I guess.) Some just don't extend well do to the heavy carriage driving focus that was once placed on the breed. And that is the extent of my knowledge, good luck andI'll get back to you with the farm's name.

Posted on Jan 11, 2001, 11:02 AM
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Friesians for Dressage

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Sarah,

You might check our website http://www.proudmeadows.com

We compete mainly in Dressage and also driving. We had two horses that were USDF 2000 Horse of the year....Tinus at 3rd level and Jorrit at Prix St. Georges.

Also Sabine Schut-Kery our trainer will be in FL for the month of February to compete so you might want to check out her tests.

Gay

Posted on Jan 22, 2001, 10:05 AM
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Friesians as Competition Horses

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Like so many people, you and I are astounded by the Friesian's lovely movement and romantic looks. Here are a few things everyone should know before choosing a Friesian as their competition horse:
1) Friesians are more cold blooded than warmbloods. Breeders are steering away from "lazy" bloodlines and in fact, more responsive horses are being discovered now. There is a difference in trainability just in the fact that these horses a bit more difficult to condition because they get sort of heavy on you when they are tired. They are big on top of that. Be careful of what you wish for!
2) Friesians haven't got a warmblood's canter. Many baroque or old style Friesians don't really even have a true canter. It is often laborious for the Friesian to be in this gait and he will have to be conditioned to be comfortable doing his work at the canter.
3) Friesian horse value is dictated by its bloodlines and its keuring, not by its level of training. There is a downside to that if you are buying a prospect for competition. Properly started colts are hard to find. In comparison, if you were to be looking for a quarter horse, you might find thousands with the same quality of conformation and their sellers would be competing with eachother through each horses level of training and performance ability. Friesians are valuable without having any substantial foundation of training or (as of yet) much proof of performance ability. Watch out! It is far more fun to buy a soft-mouthed, athletic young companion than to buy a hard-mouthed, unathletic but good-looking horse-in-training. Be picky! There are great Friesians out there but be ready to pay for the good ones and don't buy too big of a horse. The smaller, modern ones are much nicer feeling under saddle and usually more nimble. With some time the whole breed should become more athletic like this, and the breed is getting taller at the same time. There are some gems out their but ride (hard) a great many before you settle on one.
4) Friesians are inbred. They are very, very inbred. This means all kinds of tragic diseases crop up and can sabotage your prospect's career before it starts, when he's two, when he's three or four, or when he is ten. Be very careful to corner your breeder and inquire about the history of things like OCD, myoclonus, bone cancer, early death, the whole lot. X-ray the joints and look for the beginnings of these diseases. Have an expert in these matters read the x-rays. It will pay off. When buying young horses, look at the dam if she is around to assess her health and abilities. Be extremely cautious. Although I don't know offhand which bloodlines carry high risks for which diseases, there are many people who do. Ask around. Also, good breeders minimize their inbreeding coefficient although that in itself is a bit of a meaningless action since the genepool is so horribly small. One generation doesn't matter that much because going back a few shows how these horses are all related.

Good luck!
All said, I love Friesians and I wouldn't trade them for anything. I think they are very functional and the breed standard is starting to recognize its career dressage performers. These next few years are pivotal for the breed as the public and the Dutch registry reconcile their differences over the purpose and future of the breed. We are likely to witness a quick change toward a shortbacked, refined, but nice moving animal that is more versatile undersaddle. Of course, there is no harm in the old standard and the original Friesian is a gentle and loving soul. There is nothing like driving Friesians in the whole world! That won't ever change.

-Deirdre

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New here-hoping for friesian

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Hi all. I am new here and I hope to one day (when I save up enough money) to own a fresian of my own. I currently own 9 horses (TWH, quarter horses, and TBTWH crosses) What the best price I could get on a quality friesian? And where do you reccomend I look?

Thanks so much!

Posted on Jan 8, 2001, 10:27 AM
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Loans for horses

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I'm new to the world of Friesians and I'm due to buy a foal this Spring. Because of the price I was thinking maybe I could take out a loan. I was wondering if anyone else has done this and what kind of loan the bank might give. Do I have to convince the bank that this is an investment? I suppose I could ask the bank but I'd like to hear from someone who's done it before the bank starts to hand me lines.

Thanks,
Marsha

Posted on Dec 28, 2000, 8:50 PM
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Loans for horses

by Beth

Marsha: In my part of the country - Eastern U.S. - a horse bought as a "hobby" (vs inventory of an established business enterprise) is not considered viable collatoral for a loan. I took out a personal loan from my credit union to buy my first Friesian back in 1993. The rate was high and is higher today. Personal, unsecured loans have an upper limit - normally around $10K. Yes, I still have the loan out - and over the years since than other horses have been bought or partially bought via this same personal loan. Now after 7 plus years of paying this high interest loan and never succeeding to lower the principal, I have decided to cash in an IRA to be free of it once and for all. I don't regret having taken the loan out - not for one minute. It got me that first Friesian that started it all!!! And it helped us build our herd to where we are today. But now it's time to take stock and get it out of my life! If you find a bank to actually consider a horse as collatoral, let me know! I didn't expect to so was not surprised.

Posted on Jan 3, 2001, 1:28 PM
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Loan

by JJ

I just purchased my first Friesian via loan, and my bank did secure the loan with the horse. It is a personal loan, and the rate technically is high. However, if you talk to your loan rep. about overpaying your monthly dues, you should be able to decrease your overall interest- depending on how interest is accrued (i.e daily, monthly...)and the timing of your payments. (I make an extra payment each month) The longer the term of the loan, the greater the overall interest payment is likely to be. The bottom line is talk to your loan rep., and then talk to another loan rep. See what your budget allows, and what your bank can do for you.
I took my loan out for 1 year. This means, of course, that the horse gets to eat my paychecks, and I get to eat canned peas until he's paid off. Funny how that seems worth it anyway!! Good Luck!!

Posted on Jan 4, 2001, 11:40 AM
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loans for friesians

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Hi, I am in the same boat right now. I want a Friesian so bad I can taste it. The only thing keeping from one is the price. I am looking at buying a yearling so the cost is cheaper. If you have found a way to get a loan, let me know. By the sounds of everyone else, the loans are high interest. Some owners will allow you to put down 1/2 and make payments over 6 months but you still have to pay boarding costs. It sucks but if it's the only way to get one....I will do it. Now, the only problem is getting him trained. That is the only draw back to buying a baby.
Keep in touch.
Sheri

Posted on Feb 29, 2004, 8:21 PM
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Wanting to lease or lease to own

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Hi!
I live near Ann Arbor, MI and I'm looking for a trained Friesian for a lease or lease to own. I'm a beginner rider so I'd like to find a Friesian trained to ride. I can't afford much, so anything more than $400/month is kind of iffy. But I can negotiate on price, so if you have a trained Friesian for lease or lease to own, please e-mail me. Thanks!
~Candace~

Posted on Dec 5, 2000, 4:03 PM
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Untitled

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hi, i am also wanting to lease a friesian. i was just wondering if you had any luck in your search? would appreciate a respons. thanks, pam

Posted on May 5, 2001, 12:14 PM
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perhaps someone can help me with some training tips

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I have the unique opportunity to work with a friesian gelding which is owned by a friend. This gentle soul has swept me off my feet and now I am completely enamored with this breed!! However, I have noticed that due to their intelligence they have some unique needs during training. For one thing, although this gentleman is seven years old, he is often as skittish and curious as a two or three year old. As I am often on the trails with him alone, this isn't very desirable. Perhaps someone has some insight to give me on this characteristic;i.e. is it a common thing in the breed or is this specific to my man?
thanks alot if you do.

Posted on Nov 16, 2000, 8:56 PM
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Untitled

by Anonymous

Klimke always recommended to give your horse confidence. Ride him on a long rein, let him look, let him know you trust him. If he takes off in a dead run, (which he probably won't) you can always bring him back. Trusting him usually lets them know it's okay. Your horse may just need to time to take in the sights and acclimate. Hope this helps, if not, try other techniques such as trying to keep his attention when he wants to spook (laterals, bending, suppling, make him attentive to the aid).

Posted on Jan 11, 2001, 7:10 AM
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spooky friesians

by julia

In my experience, being spooky is not a breed characteristic. Perhaps your gelding isn't used to doing trails?

Posted on Jan 19, 2001, 2:33 PM
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hock problems

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What would you do if the x-rays of the hocks of a 3 year old showed "mild degenerative joint disease" ie: mild arthritis?

I am still thinking about buying her, because I simply fell in love!
I sure can’t tell she is stiff in her back legs. Judges did (3rd premie). Vet did.
She is deemed sound for pleasure riding, but couldn’t be expected to go beyond 2nd degree dressage, which is OK with me today--but tomorrow?
She has no star behind for 2 generations.

Any input?
Am I crazy, or simply ignorant, because I don't know what I'd be getting into?



Posted on Nov 7, 2000, 11:24 AM
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bad hocks

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It really all depends on what you want the horse for. If you want it to be a pet, I say go for it. But if you have plans or THINK you may have plans to compete down the road, I would say run fast and far in the other direction. You'll end up dissatisfied and it's not fair to the horse. This horse should really go to someone who wants a pet and maybe for some light riding. I'd suggest you keep looking. I know of someone who has a nice 2 1/2 year old for sale *wink*.

Posted on Nov 11, 2000, 8:16 PM
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Hocks

by Dia

If your mare has changes on the x-rays , as well as a degree of change in the flexion ( tests ) I would say, unless you are looking to just have a trail horse and brood mare later ( probably sooner ) your money is better spent elsewhere.

If you are thinking of pushing her at anytime,
( work wise )
you may be looking at long term maintanence of these problems : special shoeing ; injections ;
supplememts, etc........
Especially since she is showing these changes with minimum work and at such a young age !

If this is your first "big - bucks" horse, or your first Friesian, skip this mare & go for a "clean" one. There are plenty out there.
It also depends on what you are paying, and I hope it isn't alot. Your re-sale outlook ( and face it, that is a reality ) is pretty dim as well.
Of course, nothing may ever come of any of it ......so .....is this alot of money to you ?
JMHO, dia

Posted on Nov 28, 2000, 4:19 PM
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Mare for Sale!

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I have a 2 1/2 year old Friesian mare for sale. If anyone is looking for a mare, please contact me at oneblackhorse@yahoo.com.

Posted on Oct 5, 2000, 11:54 AM
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What is her breeding and how much are you asking for her? Do you have any photos? Thanks

Posted on Oct 9, 2000, 10:32 AM
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Mare for sale

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She is being sold at $14,000 and was sired by Pilgrim and is out of Lydeke.

Posted on Oct 12, 2000, 8:56 AM
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interested in mare

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i would like a picture of your mare. how much is she? is she training?
thanks,

liane koch


Posted on Oct 19, 2000, 2:17 PM
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interested in mare

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i would like a picture of your mare. how much is she? is she training?
thanks,

liane koch


Posted on Oct 19, 2000, 2:18 PM
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Interested

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I will be happy to send you more info on her, but I will need your complete email address.

Posted on Nov 1, 2000, 5:22 AM
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Mare for sale

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Hi, I am soon to be buying a friesian mare and or colt. and would like to know if you still have yours for sale and more information. Please let me know. Thank you.

Carol Rayner
21860 Bethel Rd
Franklin, VA 23851

Posted on Jan 17, 2001, 7:05 PM
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Duxbury Keur Photos

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Duxbury Keuring photos are ready so if you are interested in seeing photos of your horse, please email me privately for info.
Thanks!
Carien
carien@catskill.net

Posted on Oct 4, 2000, 9:23 AM
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