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Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 21 2007 at 3:15 AM
Backward Rowing 

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I thought I share some pictures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spwvadP9Ock
Victoria Dragon Boat Festival - Platinum Final
Ln Pl Time Name
5 5 2:15.20 Xtreme Reach
4 3 2:09.39 Dragonauts
3 1 2:03.74 Kai Ikaika
2 2 2:04.51 Gorging Dragons
1 4 2:11.61 Sudden Impact Black
Lane 1 is closest to festival site, Lane 5 is furthest.


Victoria Dragon Boat Festival - Platinum Consolation
Ln Pl Time Name
5 4 2:15.81 Eye of the Dragon
4 3 2:15.16 Portland Fire Dragons
3 1 2:14.67 Zamboanga Paddling
2 2 2:14.69 VO2 Max
1 5 2:18.43 Edgewater Casino DWW


Westshore Warriors in the foreground, Shibumi behind them and Dogpaddlers next to MV Coho.


Kai Ikaika with a Gorging Dragons blow-up doll in the upper right corner.


And yes, Scurvy Dawgs fulfill our requirement of Johnny Depp wannabees.

More info can be found at www.dragonboatwest.net

 
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Anonymous

Hot

August 21 2007, 7:31 AM 

That is the hottest Johnny Dep look alike.

Why are the times so slow? Shallow water? Windy?

 
 
Anonymous

Thanks

August 21 2007, 8:33 AM 

Thanks for the results and the pics. Always welcome here.

Question: the guy on the right in the third picture, he's a FCRCC paddler, right? Used to paddle with TD Lightning? I think I met him years ago in HK.

 
 
Anonymous

Kai and FCRCC

August 21 2007, 9:13 AM 

Yeah, he's from False Creek. Kai traditionally has a few FC paddlers on their team when they race in Victoria. I guess travelling from Portland means they lose a few people and FC is always there to make up the numbers. Can't say I blame them, the Kai people are always pretty cool.

As for the times, could've been wind, could've been tide. The race takes place in a VERY active harbour so no matter what the weather conditions are the course always seems a bit choppy.

 
 
Gym Class Hero

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 21 2007, 9:17 AM 

Thanks for the pics & results. We don't know enough about the west coast teams, and it's interesting to see more info about them.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 21 2007, 9:42 AM 

yeah!

Lets learn more about them so we can indescriminately trash them too!

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 21 2007, 9:46 AM 

Clearly another arrogant Mayfair post. Great job guys... kill the sport

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 21 2007, 9:49 AM 

Clearly not everyone has a sense of humour or has a big problem with some teams.

 
 
Backward Rowing

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 21 2007, 1:08 PM 

The festival site is starts at the Seaplane car parking and ends at Ship's Point. The entire Inner Harbour is open to spectators. The site is limited to 90 crews as Canadian Forces tents, lent by the Navy, and set up by the Navy Dragon Anchors, has squeezed out nearly all the flat warm-up spots. Two entry points for the Paddlers Village, guarded by viguelent volunteers. The village itself has a pre-marshalling area, a by donation message tables and free water coolers.

Marshalling is done by the very bald Marshall Greg and his ever increasing lavish comments towards paddlers. By the way, radios work to keep everything running smoothly. From pre-marshalling, teams are escorted tightly by flag wavers near the beer garden (cheers from there), between the spectator stands and the International food and entertainment village into the Marshalling area. In the Marshalling area, borrowing of equipment is done. They are then brought down to two docks (lanes 1-2-3 and lanes 4-5).

Two sets of 5 Millennium boats are used. Due to water traffic, boats are to cut across the race lanes and proceed along the south edge of the race course to the start. There is a small cove if you have to wait a while, due to ferry or seaplane traffic. In one heat, due to ferry & seaplane traffic, and a re-race, one team waiting up to wait up to 30 minutes. Water officials bring you into the pre-start area, which happens to be a narrows 100m across, shared by 5 lanes and normal boat traffic, then the land-based start official does the start using an airhorn.

One chase boat for directions as there will NEVER be any lane markers. Surprisingly, it is rare for wave riding to occur, due to the chase boat. Several harbour patrol, Victoria police and RCMP boats are there to direct traffic for larger vessels, but are rather unsuccessful with smaller vessels who create wake for the races. There are docks surrounding the race course so it would be next to impossible to stop traffic. After the finish line, you have about maybe 40m of run-off before you hit one of those multi-million dollar yacht docked at the end, screaming to be hit by an over exhuberant team forgetting to hold the boat. Forget about turning, as you will probably hit the boat next to you as they come screaming into the run-off area.

As noted earlier, wakes are a huge problem in unmarked lanes. Also, inexperienced sterners have issues with wakes and the 90* turning tidal current which can add time. Wind was light on Sunday morning, but it was mostly a cross wind.



Times were slower this year because of Calgary. Normally, most teams would do Calgary earlier in the month as a regionals, then some would go to Victoria. This year, some teams seemed to hold back for Calgargy this week.

Port-o-potties and their equivalent port-o-urinals are scattered throughout the site (outside the Paddlers Village and International Village). Only real complaint was the beer garden this year. After the races, the organizers enforced the maximum capacity rule. This prevented a lot of team from getting their medals, and the happy mayhem that normally followed didn't this year.

 
 
Anonymous

Calgary?

August 21 2007, 1:49 PM 

Don't think you can blame Calgary for the slow times. The GDs were not likely holding back in the final as trying to beat the Kai/FCRCC team is a priority for them at their local festival. Kai had no reason to hold back as they don't go to Calgary. My money is on the wind and what may have been a slow outgoing tide.

It is rare for sub-2 times at this festival. I can recall Kai and GDs (and TD back in the day) posting a couple sub-2 times in the past, but not lately. Even those were probably tide assisted.

Nice summary of the race site. It's a pretty crazy venue, very unique and challenging. Lane 1 can at times have to steer clear of the wharf as the natural line up from the starting line ends up aiming them at the corner of the wharf. Not to mention the damn Harbour Ferries that love to skirt that lane on a regular basis.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 21 2007, 5:21 PM 

give us the real story...tell us about the bad officiating...the washriding...the unsportsmanlike conduct...who whould have really made the final but got screwed...how kai stacked its team...

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 21 2007, 5:33 PM 

"give us the real story...tell us about the bad officiating...the washriding...the unsportsmanlike conduct...who whould have really made the final but got screwed...how kai stacked its team..."

Actually, only the last of those conjectures is true, and even then only sort of. tThe real reason they 'stacked' the boat was becuase many from their team couldn't make the trip. In fact, they raced with only 18 on the Saturday until two more False Creek people showed. Plus, the Kai people made no bones about the fact that 6 or 8(or whatever) of False Creek's fastest jumped in the boat. In all honesty, aside from psuedo-stacking the boat, Kai Ikaika adds an extra competitive dimension to the Victoria Race that I think most people are happy to have. They're a class bunch of people. And no, I'm not a member of Kai, but I did race them in the final.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 22 2007, 4:40 AM 

"give us the real story...tell us about the bad officiating...the washriding...the unsportsmanlike conduct...who whould have really made the final but got screwed...how kai stacked its team..."

Actually, I don't have any stories of bad officiating. One boat (Bastion Dragons of Nanaimo) lost control in lane 2, nearly knocking out the steersperson of lane 3 (Portland Fire Dragons) and colliding by forming the top of the "T" with Ageless Warriors. Officials had already told the boat to turn, but was already lost control, so they held.

Washriding, well that's what the official boats do, direct the steersperson to turn. It is annoying, but it works. Unsportsmanlike conduct on the water, I haven't seen it. What makes this festival fun is that even the top level teams are more like long lost friends seeing each other. Most party together at the end, and that is why the draconian enforcement of liquor laws this year (max capacity of 350 as opposed to chest-to-chest sardine existence after the final race in the beer gardens).

Kai stacking the team. Whatever. They and Gorging Dragons gives the spectators what they want, a very close race. Who should have made it to the finals, honestly, they were about right. The final seeding in the first races were correct a few days before the event, which allowed to seeding to work. This may have screwed some out of town teams from Vancouver Island, but most other teams (from Victoria or outside Vancouver Island) were there at the crack of dawn.

The only serious problem was wake from other boats, seaplanes, ferries and water taxis that cut through the race course. Millennium boats are good workhorses, but they are a bit slower than BuK and Geminis. What makes this event fun is the capping of 90 crews and the confined paddlers village which gets people to meet and interact with each other... a lot like high school sporting events.


 
 
Anonymous

Just fyi

August 22 2007, 8:37 AM 

My original question about the FCRCC guy in the picture wasn't to take this thread on any "stacking" tangent. I was just curious to know if the dude was who I thought he was. I raced with him AND against him in HK back in 2001(?), so this should let him know at least what team I was on.

Never raced in Victoria. Looks nice.


 
 
Anonymous

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 22 2007, 11:14 AM 

sounds like you have one big lovefest out west.... stop ruining this board with your wholesomeness and good sportsmanship...

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Victoria Dragon Boat Festival

August 22 2007, 12:19 PM 

yah thats the same guy. he hasn't changed much in appearance.

 
 
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