Canada ruled the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS in day 4. We won gold in every division excluding the juniors. Everyone down under is sick of hearing the Canadian National Anthem! *** AWESOME ***

Congratulations paddlers, coaches & steers people. Enjoy the rest of your stay and come home safe for the celebration party.

Anyone knows what the medal count is?

Premier Open won Gold? Congrats to FC. Glad to know our women held off the Chinese.

They have part of Day 4 up.Senior Open/Senior Women and Premier Women won their Heats as did Grand Men and Junior Women. Junior Women won by 8 secs. Junior men just about beat the Germans in their heat.

http://www.dragonboat07.com.au/websystem/readwritedel/webcontent/results/Day4/8th_IDBF_International_Dragon_Boat_Racing_Championship.htm

Any official FINAL results yet?

We won gold in every division excluding the juniors.
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I think you got the wrong info as FRCC did not win Premier Mixed.

Does anyone have the correct results from Day 4 Finals yet?

"We won gold in every division..."

Wow, I'm getting some very different reports from the Americans down under.

Can the American send some results up over?

The poster was partly right except the USA won the men's 500, Canada won the minor final maybe that is what the poster read? Someone said it was a world record time, 1:48 for the 500 (fastest time ever at Worlds?).

Yes the Philipines set the record in the semi w/ a 1.49 and Canada went a 1.51 but who would have thought a 1.51 would not make it to the final ,FCRCC got knocked into the minor by less than 2/10's I think it was .

The Final in Premier Open was unreal to watch .The Philipines were on fire and china tried to run them down w/ a crazy high rate but ran out of steam in the last 100 and the USA really stepped it up and broke the record w/ a 1.48 setting a new record

Just for the record ,the US team had some of the best paddlers out there .Danny Ching ( of outrigger fame ) was seat 3 right and a good portion of the team was the US national kayak team it looked like .FCRCC did very well when you look at who they were up against and how much time they were given to get ready for it .

congrats to the usa national team.

Philly won nationals and true to its form committed to bringing a team that had a chance to win. Some of those winning nationals did not make the boat. However, most of the boat had raced with Philly before. Philly has been using regional and national talent for a number of years to make it a true national team.

Only two guys were "new" outsiders, Ching and Tyson Poppler both outrigger guys from the West Coast. Only one kayak guy this year, Chris Swan, who raced with us the last 3 years (we used 6 kayakers in 2004). The outrigger guys really fit in well. One true rookie was the coach's 19 year old son who earned his seat in time trials. He had one on one outrigger sessions with the old man that made him fast.

We had the best guy from the Portland area, Darryl Hogge, who captained the Port Diego team that raced in Iowa in 2004, he then joined us for Shanghai later that year and raced Berlin and Tampa with us. In the Philly "core" are guys who live in NYC and the DC area who practice with the team. Ben Ledewitz the head coach of the Pittsburgh team also paddled with us in Tampa and Sydney.

The boat was led by a pair of Seniors in the stroke pair, Ross Flemer an elite rower and Kevin McFadden. They have stroked the boat together since 2001 and did every thing the coach asked each race. Their experience was a huge factor in holding the boat under control in the middle of the race to set up the sprint as we had to come from behind because of how quick the Phillipines and China were in the first 200.

Strategy wise coach had the boat dog the first 500 heat because GB and the Phillipines were in there with 2 to qualify and he saw no reason to race hard 3 times when you could race hard twice. A lot of dudes were doubting coach but the Phillipines and GB took the bait and raced hard (1:50 and 1:51)while we chilled in the reps, might have been what gave us the edge in the final 150 meters.

False Creek was strong but the field was ripping fast, GB was great, the Asians amazing off the line and in the 200. What can you say about the Canadian women that hasn't been said, they are the class of the field.

Did False Creek try to recruit outside talent? Any open try outs?
The bio on the Slovakian team indicated they were a combo team of 3 paddling centers. Maybe that is what you have to do to win at Worlds these days.

FCRCC did not have alot of time but did bring on a couple of paddlers who were good but know where near what Danny Ching was .FCRCC was definately an improved team looking at how Germany and Macau did. At the club crews both these teams did well against FCRCC but at the worlds FCRCC dominated both these teams far more than what took place at the club crews .The Open was pay back for Fcrcc on the Germans as they took them pretty much every time by a boat length and same w/ Macau .I think FCRCC did the best they could against an extremely fast feild that had 2 yrs to prepare vs 3 months

FCRCC did not have alot of time but did bring on a couple of paddlers who were good but know where near what Danny Ching was .FCRCC was definately an improved team looking at how Germany and Macau did. At the club crews both these teams did well against FCRCC but at the worlds FCRCC dominated both these teams far more than what took place at the club crews .The Open was pay back for Fcrcc on the Germans as they took them pretty much every time by a boat length and same w/ Macau .I think FCRCC did the best they could against an extremely fast feild that had 2 yrs to prepare vs 3 months

do you know how little time it used to take the east coast men's team to prepare for the worlds? prior to the world championships they would paddle for at most a few months, or as little as a few weeks together as a crew. the roster is usually not even fully formed until just before the event.

the real preparation is in the years and years that they have already spent paddling in their primary discipline, sprint canoeing.

the ladies are another matter. this group has been together for years now, and they always worked harder as a crew then the men did. training vs talent.

Let's not say the girls dont have talent now...
Perhaps they have both? Which would explain how they were able to sweep everything.
The last time Canada sent their "awesome East Coast" National team I don't remember them winning EVERYTHING...

whoa, whoa, whoa!

never meant to suggest that the ladies didn't have talent too. far from it. agreed they have both; talent and training. they just seem to work harder at it, trained for it, while the guys relied on their talent and prior training.

fair enough?

"Strategy wise coach had the boat dog the first 500 heat because GB and the Phillipines were in there with 2 to qualify and he saw no reason to race hard 3 times when you could race hard twice. A lot of dudes were doubting coach but the Phillipines and GB took the bait and raced hard (1:50 and 1:51)while we chilled in the reps, might have been what gave us the edge in the final 150 meters."


Yeah, I watched that in amazement. The top two teams in your first heat would go straight to the semis. While your coach was smart to dog the first heat, Phillipines and GB were absolutely STUPID to do just the opposite!!! For some crazy reason, they raced hard all the way to the end of that race -- even though the third-place team was almost 10 seconds behind. Dumb, dumb, dumb.


1 4 Philippines 1:50.12
2 2 Great Britain 1:51.02
3 5 New Zealand 2:00.88
4 1 Chinese Taipei 2:01.07
5 3 United States 2:08.31

As you wrote, Phillipines' and GB's extra effort in this race may have given you the edge you needed to beat them in the final. Great work!

Not sure if this was part of the plan, but this strategy also allowed you to race some of your top over-40 Premier guys in your Senior Open boat for their first heat, assuring you a place in the Senior Open final in Lane 4. Another smart move, whether intended or not.

There were 4 seniors as starters on the US Premier team, we used two of them in each of the first senior heats and filled in with two younger subs for the Premier heats. We did that for all the events not just the 500. The Senior finals were just before the Semis of the Premier so we could not use them in the Senior final as coach wanted the starters in for the semis. The Seniors used two subs for the finals. We might have been able to take a silver in the Senior 500 (Aussie A beat us by 0.2 seconds) with those two in the final but the team focus was on the Premier boats. No one from the Seniors complained as they knew that going in.