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'The lightest mechanical watch ever made'? I'm sure I'm not the first to notice...

March 3 2006 at 5:43 PM
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that this claim, (about the RM009), is a bit silly, but for some reason I haven't seen it disputed yet.

As I'm sure anyone who thinks about it will realize, there have been any number of mechanical watches that weigh less than 28 grams, (head only). Consider how many tiny women's watches have been made over the years, for instance, that might weigh a fraction of that.

It doesn't need to be a diminutive women's watch to come in under that weight, though. The first watch I selected from my collection to place on the gram-scale this morning, a vintage Junghans Max Bill Chronometer, weighs 26 grams. A vintage Hamilton Intramatic with date weighs about 28 grams with strap and buckle attached. The watch head alone is only 22. Since this is an automatic with rotor, I'm sure you can appreciate there will be many, many men's HW watches that will come in well under even that weight.

Please understand that I very much admire RM watches for the innovative and technically exciting construction techniques they represent. I just think RM doesn't need to clutter up the issue with such silly, hyperbolic claims attached to them.

(And if you're reading this, Mr. Mille, I think I should be gifted an RM watch, maybe an RM005 Ti, for drawing this serious concern to your attention, don't you? Thanks!) >;^)

 
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I think the claim is actually "lightest Tourbillon" (nt)

March 3 2006, 6:19 PM 

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Actually, they make a point of claiming, 'Not only the lightest tourbillon, but the...

March 3 2006, 7:56 PM 

lightest mechanical watch ever made'. I've seen it several times in their ad copy and in articles with quotes from Mr. Mille. (They might not be able to prove it's even the lightest tourbillon. There have been some pretty small ones.)

Not that it's a big deal, really, but it takes away from the serious nature of the technical work RM is trying to demonstrate. When a watch costs more than a large sailing yacht or a 12-cylinder Ferrari, hyperbole and specious claims don't help with the credibility factor.

 
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All perfectly valid points. The RM009 might be the lightest given its spacial dimensions

March 3 2006, 8:17 PM 

making it the lightest per cubic centimetre. I dont know! We can all point to very small, and therefore very light mechanical watches. But fair point. I perhaps might venture that this is the lightest mechanical watch in production today? But I am sure someone knows of a counterpoint.

However, the lightness of the piece was determined by a challenge from Felipe Massa. Could a watch be made light enough not to affect his reactions (at high speed), and still have the structural integrity to withstand severe punishment (such as the car suddenly stopping)? Hence, new material were employed, not just for their lightness, but also for their rigidity and strength.

Still, point made. Ill around and see what else I can find out.

Andrew H

 
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Oh, PS, it is still an uber cool watch (independent of the marketing hype)...

March 3 2006, 8:18 PM 

take a look at one!

Andrew H

 
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If I get to Cellini in NYC, I shall take a look.

March 3 2006, 9:21 PM 

If they have one in stock, that is. >;^)

 
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The lightest COSC chronometer I can find....

March 3 2006, 11:09 PM 

by turning around and reaching into the bookshelf quickly is the Sinn 8826Ti at 32 gm.

Velociphile


 
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JLC

March 4 2006, 2:22 AM 

makes an absolutely tiny ladies manual wind watch. it is real small but i dont remember the model

 
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It's cal. 101 (nt)

March 4 2006, 2:47 AM 

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