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Human Rights My Butt

June 29 2001 at 7:27 PM
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Human Rights My Butt
Scott Carpenter, Real Canadian 05.25.01


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It's difficult to laugh at stupidity but sometimes something comes along that's so ridiculous and absurd that you can't help but chuckle.

Like the recent article in the Ottawa Citizen a friend recently e-mailed me that pertained to a religious ad in the Regina Leader Post which supposedly exposed gays to hatred. Not so funny? Well, it gets better so bear with me.

According to complainant, Gens Hellquist, the perpetrator of this 'hate crime,' one Hugh Owens, was "using [his] interpretation of the Bible to direct hatred towards me."

Not surprisingly the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission agreed and ordered "both the newspaper and Mr. Owens to pay the three complainants [yes, there were others] $1,500 each" for running an ad that made references to biblical passages that bore anti gay messages but no direct reference to Mr. Hellquist and crew.

And here's the funny part: on the home page of the SHRC web site we are told the sole purpose of their existence is to "eliminate discrimination and to promote the right to freedom of conscience and religious practice, the right to free expression and the right to free association."

So, according to the SHRC the way in which we eliminate discrimination and promote these three rights is to impose a restriction on Mr. Owen's freedom of speech, to punish the Regina Leader Post for freely associating with a paying customer and to curtail the public display of religious beliefs we don't agree with?

What fresh sweet hell is this and who in God's name is the dingbat who came up with this little gem of reason?

Must of been a lawyer or possibly some asinine so called "Human Rights Organization".

I guess the point of this little diatribe is that you can't have freedom of speech without hearing a little hate, freedom of religion without hearing about the bible etc. and especially freedom of association without the right to discriminate. That is, after all, how we choose our associates - we make a choice - i.e.: we choose one in favor of another [we discriminate] and yes sometimes people make choices based in ignorance.

Besides, fragile sensibilities aside there is no tangible damage in hearing an ignorant viewpoint and if people like Mr. Hellquist would exercise there own neurons and either reply sensibly to rubbish like Mr. Owen's or ignore him altogether instead of running to the nanny state to solve the problem [Oh please, please help me Mr. Government man! Someone hurt my feelings because they 'hate' me!] then he wouldn't have people like me flogging him for not being able to fight his own battles. Or better yet Mr. Hellquist could practice his own right to discriminate by not buying the Leader Post.

Indeed, we cannot continue to use the guns of the state [lawyers and courts] to solve our ideological differences before it begins to exact a heavy toll on what little freedom we have left.

Wake up! It's time to get a grip Saskatchewan! Until then I'll be exercising my own right to discriminate by not darkening my homeland's door (until it comes to its senses). I suspect this will keep the whining statists among you happy for the mean time.

And to the rest of you - good luck - if this case is any vision of things to come you'll need it.

Regards,
Scott Carpenter
Saskatchewaner in Exile

Scott Carpenter is a free lance writer and syndicated columnist with Le Quebecois Libre (http://www.quebecoislibre.org).

 
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GM anti-gun

June 30 2001, 9:00 PM 

GM and the Gun Sculpture
>by David Codrea
>
>codrea4@earthlink.net
>
>An internationalist anti-gun sculpture was recently presented
>at the GM Court at the Canadian War Museum, and will soon be
>headed for American soil.
>
>What follow are some of my correspondences with GM officials.
>I hope after reading this, you will decide to also contact GM
>with your concerns, and let them know that while they are free
>to engage in social activism, we are free to be customers of
>people who are not abetting UN efforts to destroy our rights.
>GM Corporate snail mail, the GM Canada website link, and the
>GM PR Director edress are included in the following thread to
>facilitate this.
>
>- ---------------------------------------------
>
>General Motors Corporation
>300 Renaissance Center
>P.O. Box 300
>Detroit, Michigan 48265-3000
>
>Phone: (313) 556-5000
>
>To: Mr. John F. Smith, Jr., Chairman of the Board of Directors
>Mr. G. Richard Wagoner Jr., President and CEO
>
>Dear General Motors Management,
>
>According to the webpage:
>
>http://www.civilization.ca/cwm/ihuman/cwmhumeng.html
>
>an artistic assault on the principles of self determination and
>defense, "The Art of Peacemaking - The Gun Sculpture," is being
>presented until June 24, 2001 in General Motors Court at the
>Canadian War Museum. I understand this offense against liberty
>is next headed for UN headquarters in New York for the July 9 -
>20 world disarmament cabal.
>
>This seems really inconsistent with your sponsorship of the Chevy
>Trucks Shooting Sports America series on ESPN cable network,
>which has done much good at positively presenting recreational
>firearms use to a viewing public that is otherwise bombarded
>with anti-gun media bias. For that, you should be commended.
>
>Do you have any control over what happens in a site that bears
>your name? Do you provide continued funding? If you do, will
>you continue to allow your name to be associated with the
>globalist agenda to undermine American sovereignty and disarm
>the American people?
>http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html
>
>I realize that "global buying power" is one of the phrases you
>use to attract investors, but I hope that GM is not underwriting
>the destruction of American freedoms to achieve global profits.
>I am forwarding this query to allies in the fight to defend the
>total Bill of Rights, and will also pass along your reply and/or
>lack of response.
>
>Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
>
>David Codrea
>
>- ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>GM claimed they were "unfamiliar with" this sculpture in an
>email that another gun rights activist forwarded to me, so I
>wrote their "Customer Relationships Manager" the following:
>
>- -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>Dear Ms. Mendoza,
>
>As per your correspondence with Mr. Rankin, you are "unfamiliar
>with any movement regarding General Motors, the United Nations,
>and an anti-gun sculpture."
>
>Allow me to assist. The link you requested is provided below.
>http://www.civilization.ca/cwm/ihuman/cwmhumeng.html
>
>I informed GM, via the "contact us" form on your website.
>
>Our questions are simple- does GM endorse the UN's global
>civilian disarmament efforts, or does GM support the United
>States Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and particularly, the
>right of the people to keep and bear arms? And what is GM
>prepared to do about this sculpture currently on display in
>the "GM Court"?
>
>Your prompt attention to this matter will be appreciated.
>
>Thank you,
>David Codrea
>
>- ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>This is the first response I received:
>
>- ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Dear Mr. Codrea,
>
>Thank you for your recent e-mail. We appreciate you sending us the
>link we requested. We should clarify this matter for you. General
>Motors Court is the physical address of the Canadian War Museum.
>This is the only relationship between the Gun Sculpture and General
>Motors.
>
>Thank you again for contacting us.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Wendy Mendoza
>Customer Relationship Manager
>GM Internet Response Center
>
>- ---------------------------------------------------
>
>Ms. Mendoza, of course, did not paint a complete picture of the
>GM relationship:
>
>- ---------------------------------------------------
>
>Dear Ms. Mendoza,
>
>Thank you for your reply.
>
>Your answer is not complete for a couple of reasons that you
>may not be aware of.
>
>First, "General Motors" is a fiercely protected brand name. It
>is used only with corporate sanction. You had better believe
>that if a nazi group presented their political views at General
>Motors Court, your company would be quick to issue a statement
>of denunciation. But this is actually a minor point.
>
>Allow me to call your attention to the following, the Oct. 9,
>1997 dedication of the GM Court, which, contrary to the
>information you have provided, shows that the relationship
>between General Motors and Canadian/UN efforts, of which civilian
>disarmament is a part, is ongoing.
>http://www.dnd.ca/eng/archive/speeches/gm_s_e.htm
>
>GM has been described as a "key fundraiser" for the War Museum
>by the Canadian Minister of National Defence. I think you will
>agree that, in this light, it is more than just an address.
>
>So my question stands, and remains unanswered: Does GM approve
>of having its name associated with UN civilian disarmament
>efforts? If not, can we expect a corporate statement of
>disagreement with the museum's display?
>
>Thank you,
>David Codrea
>
>- -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Ms. Mendoza then offered the Pontius Pilate defense, i.e., "Go
>see Herod":
>
>- -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Dear Mr. Codrea,
>
>Thank you for your recent e-mail. We apologize for your
>dissatisfaction with our previous response.
>
>We must emphasize that you wrote your comments to the United
>States division of General Motors. It would be in your best
>interest to contact GM of Canada at www.gmcanada.com for the
>information you are seeking.
>
>Also, General Motors does not have a corporate statement on
>this matter. GM supports artistic expressions and opinion.
>The Gun Sculpture is the artists views and opinion. We cannot
>comment on the sculpture, the Canadian War Museum, or General
>Motors involvement.
>
>Thank you again for contacting GM.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Wendy Mendoza
>Customer Relationship Manager
>GM Internet Response Center
>
>- ----------------------------------------------
>
>To which I responded:
>
>- ----------------------------------------------
>
>Dear Ms. Mendoza,
>
>In re "We cannot comment on the sculpture, the Canadian War
>Museum, or General Motors involvement."
>
>You already have. Loud and clear.
>
>Sincerely,
>David Codrea
>
>- ---------------------------------------------
>
>So I sent my concerns to GM Canada, and received the following:
>
>- ---------------------------------------------
>
>Original Message:
>From: stew.low@gm.com
>To: codrea4@earthlink.net
>Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:57 AM
>
>Your letter to the GM Chairman has been forwarded to me for
>response.
>
>My name is Stew Low and I am the Director of Public Relations
>for GM of Canada and I am the one responsible for the relation-
>ship GM of Canada has with the Canadian War Museum.
>
>In Canada, we have a document called the Charter of Rights and
>Freedoms that guarantees our Canadians free speech and expression,
>the right of free association and a number of others that we
>all recognize as being the foundation that makes Canada the best
>country in the world.
>
>While I can appreciate your point of view, I do not agree that
>is our place to censure what a museum will or will not show. In
>doing so is contrary to what makes this country great.
>
>Yours truly,
>
>D. S. Low
>
>- --------------------------------------------------
>
>Oh, Stew, Stew, Stew...
>
>- --------------------------------------------------
>
>To: Stew Low, GM Canada stew.low@gm.com
>
>Dear Stew,
>
>I've seen your tepid Charter. One might say it has a big "but",
>in that it "guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it
>subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can
>be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."
>
>Gee, that opens the door to all kinds of revisionist
>interpretations based on might makes right and the political
>climate of the time. Guess it all depends on the meaning of the
>phrase "reasonable limits" and how many people you can sell that
>definition to, eh?
>
>In the United States, WE have a document called the Bill of
>Rights, which is off-limits to government infringement, and
>which, when necessary, protects the individual against the
>tyranny of the majority. Included in these is the inalienable
>right of the people to keep and bear arms.
>
>History has shown that disarmed populations are vulnerable
>populations, and this has been demonstrated by the tens of
>millions of genocide victims in the last century, the vast
>majority being victims of their OWN governments.
>
>An exhibit advocating global disarmament, one intended to
>influence passage of enforceable treaty provisions and
>guarantee a monopoly of power to UN member state regimes over
>their subjects, is occurring under the name "GM". Your claim
>that it is not your place to "censure" a museum exhibit rings
>hollow - you people would be tripping all over yourselves to
>disaffiliate the GM name from this were it a politically
>incorrect exhibit, for instance, something advocating racial,
>sexual or religious intolerance, that is, as long as the race
>was not white, the sexuality was not hetero, and the religion
>was not Christianity.*
>
>But thanks for your candor. I'll pass your message on as the
>official position of General Motors Corporation and its
>affiliates.
>
>Sincerely,
>David Codrea
>codrea4@earthlink.net
>Guns- good AND good FOR you!
>Find out why at:
>http://www.guntruths.com/
>http://www.citizensofamerica.org/
>http://www.keepandbeararms.com/
>
>- ------------------------------------------
>
>* Lest this observation cause concern, understand that it's
>intent is merely to illustrate the double-standard applied by
>liberals espousing freedom of expression. I wrote the original
>draft from which the GunTruths.com "Inclusion Statement" was
>developed, a statement which has also been endorsed by
>KeepandBeararms.com:
>
>"[We are] Not Your Enemy. [We] supports the right of all
>peaceable people to keep and bear arms. Your age, race, sex,
>religion, political party, sexual orientation, or national
>origin are of no concern to us. Anyone who requires you to
>disarm is not your friend, and not our friend. Only when all
>peaceable citizens can freely exercise their inalienable right
>to self defense, and their right to keep and bear arms, will
>we attain the ultimate safeguard for our mutual protection, as
>individuals, as members of a community, and as citizens of the
>Republic."
>
>- ------------------------------------
>
>Stew gets the last word:
>
>- -------------------------------------
>
>As i said I appreciate your point of view, but don't happen to
>agree with it.
>That is what makes society so interesting.
>
>* * *
>
>Forwarded FYI by The Liberty Crew
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