You're probably somewhere in the range of 70-100 for both if I'm getting the right mental image! If you have a style in mind you can email it to the shop
which is Spike@primtiveorigins.co.uk
I could tell you wether the style is gonna be possible to do on a wrist.
Cheers
Daz
Posted on Apr 13, 2007, 3:57 PM from IP address 87.80.32.162