Seems like I'm slightly drifting away from the R9 for the moment; This year the focus has been on building the R19.

Today I finally bought the 16V suspension and brake bits I've been after from a scrapped donor car:
- 16V front calipers for vented discs
- Vented front discs
- 16V bigger-bore master cylinder & servo
- 16V front antiroll bar
- 16V four-bar rear axle (without brake calipers but with discs)
- Brake proportioning valve with operating levers

I still have to get those rear brake calipers. I've already found a pair but a friend promised to go and see what condition they're in since they're in a different town.

Next the parts will be sandblasted, painted and re-sealed as needed. They're from a 117,000 km car, so I'm pretty sure the rear axle bushes have plenty of life left in them.


And about the Volvo 1.7-litre turbo F-series engine with fuel injection: Today I spoke with a friend who has a complete 120,000 km engine for sale with all possible ancillaries (turbo, intercooler, ignition&injection ECUs, wiring looms, sensors, fuel pump etc.)
Price? 500 euros for the lot, so I'm more than tempted! Although, realistically, I'd be a fool if I didn't budget for at least another 500 euros to ensure reliability in service. That is, if the turbo is intact...


I know this is supposed to be an R9/11 forum, but hey, the 19 is their direct successor. And I'm so excited about the "new" parts I couldn't keep it all to myself...

Kareem posted earlier about styling a car (R9 in his case) in a classy and elegant way, using relatively small, discreet measures to achieve an elegant result. I agree with you Kareem, understatement is often better than exaggeration.

Well, I posted an older photo of my car earlier, but now I have some fresh pictures taken just yesterday afternoon! In the new pics you can see the new body-coloured door handles (among others things) I mentioned.

I had the bumpers off this summer (to get access for sandblasting) so I could have painted them in body colour as well. But I had made some experiences with Photoshop and finally decided standard bumpers look better in black. 16V and Phase II bumpers are another thing, but IMHO these early bottom-of-the-range bumpers (like the GTS) don't look that good in body colour. What do you think?

I definitely need to fit a front splitter from a Laguna I or similar, now the front look SO jawless you could mistake it for an off-road vehicle!


Oh yes, here's how to get to the new pics:
http://netti.nic.fi/~gordini/rtf/autot.php?hae=auto&malli=R19&omistaja=Juha_Moisio

My site (only in Finnish) is still relatively new, so there aren't too many cars yet in the gallery ("Autogalleria") but I'm hoping things will kick off for Renault Tuning here in Finland eventually. Now the Finnish scene is still mostly Astra, Golf, Civic, Golf, Astra, Astra, Kadett, Golf......

I like the look of your car with the mag and the black bumper ( i also prefer it like that).

For the 1.7 turbo conversion, if you did it , please take picture and note of what to do. At this price, it sound a good deal if everything is good conditions but you never know. I'm still looking and thinking about what to do on my GTA convertible , as the engine is in bad condition, ( blue smoke, oil burning ), i want to change it and the eternal questions ( from the north american) :

If you have the choice (no matter with the cost) to put an engine in a 9/11 what will be your choice in the order ?

1) The New 16V 2.0L Turbo (165HP)of the Vel Satis/Avantime ( I read some where on the web that next year it will be in a clio with more than 180 HP !!!maybe 200Hp Stock !!!

2)16V engine (140-150HP)(1.8,2.0,)

3)Volvo Turbo 1.7 (120HP)

4) 1.4 Turbo (105-115HP)

If you have the same choice with matter of the cost ?

Do the New 2.0 Turbo will fit in a 9 , what is the type ? With all the electronics of those new engine, could you instal it easily with the injection or is it possible (or interesting) to put carburator on it ???

The volvo engine look terrible in a 9 ( even in a 19 or GTT ). The possibility are great for not a lot of money !!!!You can easily reach 200HP wth IT ??
Is it hard to install it ?

The 16V engine is reliable and probably cheap to fit in a 9 but to have more HP on it cost more ?

The old 1.4 Turbo is tested and work well in a 9 . The cost is cheap but he is old.....and to have more than 160 HP , it start to cost more....

But i have a question ? Do Renault have a transmission ( in is line of model ) with a limited slip differential that could Fit with a F series Engine to handle the power?

Do you know scrap yard on the web ( with preference in Belgium or France) that you could trust to order from without seeing the merchandise ?????

How much did you pay for the axle of the 19V.

wakemania

No matter what the cost, I'd definitely go for:
1) the new 2.0 16V turbo! Why?
- just to be the top dog in the R9/11 society! However, the new engine with all its ancillaries would out-value my 9 by at least 60 times! So I guess I'd have to go mental with the rest of the car, too. But, money no object, that wouldn't be a problem...


But, keeping things realistic, if cost is a matter of consideration I'd probably choose:
3) Volvo 1.7 turbo. Why?

- turbo-charged, so more power is easily achieved by upping the boost slightly. Standard maximum boost is about 0.5 bar (which is very low), so upping it to just 0.7-0.9 bar would probably bring the power already to the 140-170 bhp region without too much other modifications needed, without compromising reliability too much.
- multi-point fuel-injected with knock sensor & ignition retarding, so it self-adjusts (to a point) if the boost is upped a little. So no need to e.g. re-jet like you'd have to if it was a 1.4 carb turbo.
- relatively easy to source a donor car (in Europe)
- valve adjustments not needed as nearly as often as in the push-rod 1.4
- oil-sprays cool the pistons from below, a definite plus over the 1.4 turbo
- bigger displacement means better torque over 1.4T
- it's a different solution: I haven't seen too many R9/Alliance 1.7 Turbos...


The 1.8/2.0 16V is a great engine, but tuning an atmospheric engine is usually more expensive than (mildly) tuning a turbo engine. This is because for an atmo you need to have parts machined (like the head flowed, cams reprofiled), whereas for a turbo upping the boost is almost all that is needed.


The new 2.0 16V turbo (code F4R-762 when coupled with a 6-sp. manual, F4R-767 with a 5-sp. auto 'box) is based on the same old trusty F-series engine as the R9/11 1721 cm³, so therefore it should physically bolt in place. Provided they haven't changed the block castings. These new engines are all about electronics, so a carburettor would probably not be a great idea...


What ever the engine, be sure to fit an engine oil-cooler! Oil cooler wasn't standard on all R19 16Vs, and quite a few suffered a disaster as hot oil started bubbling in the circulation, causing oil starvation, causing a hole in the cylinder block!


AFAIK, no Renault using the JB/JC series gearbox has had a limited slip diff in series production. Renault Sport may have offered a kit when these 'boxes were still used in competition, but I assume today parts are non-existing or very pricey at best.


I paid 120 euros for the rear axle (with torsion bars, rear hubs/discs and pressure-regulating valve components, sans brake calipers/cylinders)

Looks awesome sorry I haven't been replying I was doing an exam.

About the bumpers, I think they look great in black
no need for painting them.Also I agree about the front
needing some sort of modification. how about the
chrome plated renault emblem? the new big one.

Don't install a spoiler. If you are, then maybe
something very conservative and takes the curves of
the R19's sides exactly and very low in profile.
But I think without the spoilers it looks fine.

Great job my friend. excellent example of what I was
talking about.

I just fitted my R9 with a keyless entry and alarm system. sounds good and next to come an Xplode
system with mp3 cd player and Xplod speakers.
I just hope I get to stay in town enough time to do those things.