Dear Zetaman ,
I think it is about time that you precisely define the moderating rules (boundaries) for moderators.
There is an obvious conflict of interest between so called "ethnically clean" moderators who represent strict nationalistic and quite often very aggressive views and so called "ethnic outsiders" ("nepodobni moderatori"). We need to address this problem before we find ourselves heading towards another "Greek tragedy".
I am fully aware of my peculiar position on your forums.
In my case calling myself "an independent moderator" per se would be perhaps inaccurate since I represent views and values of The United Europe, which very often contradict those of "native Balkanians".
I am not against expressing nationalistic, totalitarian, undemocratic views on these forums. To the contrary, as a matter of fact it gives all of us (especially us in the West, who have professional links with the Balkans) an excellent socio-political insight into the Balkan world.
I am - however - against the authoritarian, undemocratic and totalitarian methods some of the moderators implement while defending their views.
Zetaman, unfortunately some irresponsible, immature moderators abuse your trust by obtaining unrestricted access to the delete key. In another words far too often some moderators on these forums misinterpret or even abuse their powers confusing the delete key on their PCs with a trigger of a gun.
Restrictions of the freedom of speech, disrespect towards other's intellectual property (including that of other moderators') is the main factor contributing to a gradual deterioration of these forums.
Let us not turn these forums into another Balkan battlefield or some kind of a proxy-war or virtual ethnic cleansing...
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Regretably "The Key question" addressed to Zetaman has been unilaterally deleted on the Macedonian forum and moved from its original thread without my or Zetaman's authorisation on the Serbian forum.
I think it speaks for itself.
It only corroborates my concernes expressed in the opening thread.
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As a co-MOD on the Macedonian forum, I must apologize for the behavior of Komitadji. I have tried to reason with him but he is stuck of pure nationalistic despotism concerning Macedonians.
As a proud Macedonian, I do not support his awkward behavior. I also hope that his behavior is not taken as an indicator that all Macedonians behave this way. It is far from that, I assure you.
Komitadji can not and will not abide by the rules as a MOD. He continually attacks individuals without remorse. Sadly, I feel that he must be stripped of his MOD privileges.
"O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians
That we lie here, true to their laws."
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Komitadji had posted a trolling thread on the Macedonian forum. I recently deleted it. He will continually repost this attack on a certain ethnic group. The problem with this is the fact that he freely posts such trolling items, yet deletes all trolling posts from others.
I will not delete this thread again, so you may read it.
Below is the post I made to Komitadji in reply to the deletion:
Komitadji
April 7 2007 at 3:33 PM
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EllinikosSlava (Login GreekSlav)
Makedonija Forum Mods Group
I have deleted the post that you made that was a blantant troll againest a certain people, in this case, Greeks, titles "Christian Turks". I am appalled that a MOD, who deletes trolling posts made by others, would post a trolling topic.
Do not post that thread again.
"O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians
That we lie here, true to their laws."
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Post I made on the Macedonian forum. I am sure it would get deleted:
EllinikosSlava
(Login GreekSlav)
Makedonija Forum Mods Group Re: ZETA: MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS
No score for this post April 8 2007, 12:58 AM
Doesn't this sound so familiar. Attack the moderator that is not a yes man to the other moderators on the forum, does not completely agree with all views of the people on the forum, and beg to Zetaman to get rid of him?
It's sad to see such behavior in men. You try your best to turn me into a fanatic so I may agree 100% with your views. And when that does not work, you beg Zetaman to get rid of me as a moderator.
A broken record. When will it end.
"O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians
That we lie here, true to their laws."
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Zecanin, Komitadji has deleted all my posts on the Macedonian forum. It is getting out of hand. He simply will not challenge my views intelligently. He reverts to childish behavior at every turn. If a post goes againest his views, he deletes them:
Rebel Komi
May 21 2007 at 3:26 PM
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EllinikosSlava (Login GreekSlav)
Makedonija Forum Mods Group
So now you revert to deleting all my posts. That's too bad that you have to show everyone how childish you are. Too bad. You as moderator here will simply not work. Go away.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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Well, Zetaman. Komi continues to delete everyone's posts, including mine, because our opinions and views do not agree with his.
I have informed you the past few months concerning this. Yet you remain silent and non-acting. So be it. I have been patient enough with him. From now on, his fanatical acts will be returned in kind and to the fullest.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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I have noticed a pattern so similar to the one we all encountered on the Greek forum. Actions by a certain Greek Mod (I personally have my idea on who it was) deleting the entire contents of the forum. Remember? Yes, I do, because I was expelled as MOD there for no apparent reason.
I see a pattern extremely similar to that, on the Macedonian (ROM) forum. Komi has become extremely fanatical, just like that individual on the Greek forum that deleted the entire contents of that forum.
I would suggest that you get your act together so you may know exactly who had done it to the Macedonian forum, if it occurs. I do not want to suffer the consequences for another's actions by being removed as MOD there for that reason. I did not and will not have a hand in it, if it occurs.
There is a war waging. Bring in the big guns now if you do not want Komi to act any more fanatical then he is now.
This will be the last message I send you concerning Komi. Your inaction will be the demise of the forum.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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G"S threatening to create discord once again, now all I did as a Mod there is to keep the peace. Instead he's carring out his threats from a previous debate. Now ask your self's is this the norm?!~
A provocation is just that, if not then why is G"S provoked by my editing to keep the peace, as a result now he's provoked so easly???
Have given him many chances but enough is enough, he ain't going to be treated any different from other useres. I am highly unbiased Mod have also warned some Greek members only for them to stop.
That's how they all start, threatens with "now you started it and now I'm going to finnish it" attitude and is not acceptable.
I believe his a good bloke who's simply made some personal judgental errors, it happens being on here for so long "stressfull" What he has with the user istor is out of my hands.
Am reporting this before he blows this out off proportion and claims to be the innocent victim once again.
Thanks for your time.
Arxileas.
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Arxileas, in reference to my comment about “having thrown the stone”, you have taken this post of mine from another thread, inserted in the one you provided a link to, and completely brought it out of context.
You continue to insult my Greekness, and that post you so slyly manipulated, was in reference to you continually disrespecting me and my Greekness. You do so only because I am outspoken and do not cling to blind conformity. You show the same ignorance as some other Greeks that live in these forums and used to be MODS.
Here is the reference my post to you concerning the thrown stone came from:
"Arxileas(Login Arxileas)Greece Forum Mods Group
Re: Greek Macedonian newspapers of late 19th century ... PROOF THAT SKOPJANS ARE BULGARIANSNo score for this post June 1 2007, 3:18 AM
"""You are right, Arxileas, for God made me Greek and Slav Macedonian. And there's nothing anyone can do about it. I thank God for who I am.
""""""On the same note, no human can say what you are not."""Exactley Mr. Slav. I now hear the voice of Alexandros saying...What hipocracy is this person speaking of? How dare them slavopeans judge me as a Slav, when I spread the Hellenic culture, way of life, founded Hellenic cities and died as a Hellene. You Greek?
Be carefull which history you are defending, communists have a tendency to rewrite historyGoran Lindblad.http://www.hellenicplanet.com/forums
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And my post immediately after:
EllinikosSlava(Login GreekSlav)Albania Forum Mods Group Re: Greek Macedonian newspapers of late 19th century ... PROOF THAT SKOPJANS ARE BULGARIANSNo score for this post June 1 2007, 3:53 AM
You have thrown the stone, Arxileas. Now you have to deal with the results."A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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So, Arxileas, I simply will not stand for your disrespect toward me or anyone else. You do not believe I am Greek, then keep that silly skata to yourself. You are a MOD and you laugh at someone's ethnic background?????
Now I will definitely strive to fight your MOD privileges until you are deposed of. You are a piece of work, Arxileas. Manipulative, disrespectful, and two faced!
You messed with a Greek. Now you will have to deal with it.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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Slav, Slav firstly for you to be a Greek is a joke. Maybe one of your folk’s maybe Greek but that doesn't make you a Greek as your mentality is that of a Slav whose sole purpose is to promote FYROM propaganda and anti Greek agendas. So who’s the deceitful scheming one? As for laughing it's my God given right to it, maybe you should too.
And many more. See how selective scheming you are, your cover was blown months ago by all the Greeks and Zecanin you fooled him tsk tsk.
Also I know all about these complaints from you geuss what do you see any of us Greek Mods replying to such malicious lies GOD no. Lies do not concern us.
Not going into your wimpering rages like you just did, simply because you can't take it like a MAN and then you start cursing the very second you saw my complaint on here;
You once nearly destroyed the Elliniko forum, the Serb forum recently and have made enemies on almost every forum. YOU are a TROLL who creates discord.
Funny how you devote so much more attention towards the Greeks to the extend of making malicious threats and not to the others, see how obvious you are again, when KOMINZI is after your Mods status and so is KanuNiSS for aiding and a betting YOU DO NOT THREAT.
Your threats do not concern me the least if you think they do your GRAVELY mistaken. Your a problem to your self "problems you bring up on your self" so you deal with them. I showed restraint BUT no more.
I will continue promoting Hellenism where I am a Mod so should you at the designated forums, and respect it host users there as they have been insulted by you so many times have lost count. The Greeks there do not see you as a Greek.
Sven and to the Montenegro users apologies for this as I should have known he would go out on full heat.
BUT WE WILL NOT ALLOW HIM TO STOP US FROM SPEAKING UP.
You have no fuel for the present issue of your deceit and manipulation, Arxsillyass? So you bring up the past? Most I remind you that I have never denied what I had said back then? You are just a silly ass childish prick.
I won't stand for an idiot MOD that manipulates my posts and presents your fantasy to the Big Dogs in an attempt to get them to believe your communist plot againest me. What a disgrace to have a clown say he is Greek and act like a baboon.
You are nothing but a weakling for getting on your knees for the big dogs. Malaka!
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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Yes, Zecanin, I am pissed. This Arxileas character purposely instigated trouble with me with his post here. There was no reason. He deleted a post of mine with the phrase "your bag". Since he did not understand the term, he deemed it provocative. I explained to him that it meant "your lose". He had also made a comment againest my Greekness, and laughed. Is this the kind of MOD you want? Kick his silly ass out of the Greek forum and make an unbiased and RESPECTFUL individual a MOD there. Since this Greek forum can not work with a totally unbiased and respectful MOD, you can not choose me but someone pretty damn close.
I also want to make a proposal. Let me be your "MOD Watchdog" for all these forums. I will scan for inappropriate MOD behavior that breaks the forum rules and report back to you. I will not make any posts concerning these infractions to the perpetrator. I will merely be the silent "Big Brother", if you may. Only those infractions that no doubt breaks the rules will be reported. All MODS will be reminded of the rules before the MOD COP is activated. Then there would be no excuse about not knowing of the rules. I would ensure that all evidence presents no doubt and that the conviction rate will be 100%. If convicted, MOD privileges will be removed, with no possibility of reinstatement. No infractions would be considered from any posts made prior to the activation of the MOD COP.
You need something in place to keep these unbiased and idiotic MODS in check. Think about it.
Arxileas pissed me off bad and his behavior was unbecoming of a MOD. He deserves a good lip thrashing. But Komi is a different ball of wax. He is totally out of line and needs to be removed. No posts are left untouched which does not agree with Komi's beliefs. There is no need to show you evidence. Just go to the forum and see what is missing.
MOD COP Think about it.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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For instance, there are many examples of Arxileas's biased application of his MOD duties. If you take the time to go through his past posts, you will see that when he edits non-Greek posters of their disrespectful and provocative posts, there are many examples of disrespectful and provocative posts made by Greeks to non-Greeks that has never been edited and/or deleted.
That kind of bias is not MOD character.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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Zecanin see all the familiarity of it all ! It's happened before and it will continue with this guy as long as you DON"T warn him. Tell him respect other countries forums and it's users or get out.
See what he's doing to the Greek forum, is this a level headed Mod who has no respect for other country "host" forums" I mean he's wailing "cry me a river" the rules apply to him also. He was warned months ago, got complaicent because we were leineint on him, and when the crunch came OMG ! A new Paris Hilton was born on here.
You let this guy off it will send a clear message to all that it's ok to be a Troll, insult etc; For a Mod not a good deal for Mods behaving like this.
Make no mistake unmoderating a Mod for SIMPLY doing there job will hit moral all time low on all forums.
There was the time recently that Arxileas (A MOD at that) accused me and told others that I was letting my wife use my MOD privileges. See below with comments: (Note. Irrelevant posts not added. Link will be provided below:
1. This is where Arxileas first came up with the insulting and provocative idea:
Arxileas(Login Arxileas)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 17 2007, 9:44 PM
"""As for the identity crises. I have seen him be active for more then 18 hours at times"""By this I mean one needs to sleep, eat, **** and have sex. No one can do all those whilst being active for those amount of hours...Imagine if I lent my Mods id to say to another person or other three people wouldn't this be a gross violation?
EllinikosSlava(Login GreekSlav)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 18 2007, 7:25 AM
You notice lots of imaginery things, Arxileas. You're funny."Unbiased thought and originality are good, blind conformity and willful ignorance are unforgivable."
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Now Arkan persuades Arxileas of his suspicions:
ARKAN(Login ARKAN10)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 18 2007, 9:53 PM
Arxileas, his wife and him share the same account.
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Here is response from Arxileas, which is evidence that now he is spreading a lie about me and donika, accusing me of letting her use my MOD account:
Arxileas(Login Arxileas)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 19 2007, 12:38 AM
"""ARKANArxileas, his wife and him share the same account."""Maybe some of you knew? brother...I had my suspicions...
============================"""teuta1975""" Arxileas, his wife and him share the same account.So what?"
""What do you mean so what? Why are you waiting for your turn to use that id too? So you've been trolling as in to assimilate his behavour? Get real as far as we're concerned you could be donika? See how much confusion this causes.If one of my Global Mods abused their id by shairing it this way. NOT will they loose their Mods privalages in case some one had access to it? but would ban them on the spot.Memebers vote for an individual "not some uknown individuals using a Mods id as if it were a toy. This to me a gross violation of trust throught these forums and a slap to the owners face..."Zecanin you know what to do.
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As you have read with this statement; "This to me is a gross violation of trust throught these forums and a slap to the owners face..."Zecanin you know what to do.", he has made a firm false accusation toward another individual on these forums. There was no proof without a reasonable doubt that I was doing what he had falsely accused me of doing. It came out of the blue, a way in Arxileas's mind to get me ousted. I believe his accusation is severe enough to oust him! This is the kind of MOD behavior that needs to end (My cussing at Arxileas is not my way but he freakin' deserves it).
Then my wife replies:
Ilium(Login Iliumia)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 19 2007, 7:58 AM
Sorry. I have my own account here. But if I happen to use my husband's, is that a crime, dimswitch?We do use the same computer. Is that what you are talking about? Why should we have our own separate computers?Goodness, you look for anything unsubstantial to blow out of proportion. Arxileas, please try to occupy yourself with something more meaningful instead of acting like a child with nothing to do.My husband is a very professional man and would never let me use his account with MOD privileges. You are such a prick to even imply this, and proves you are unprofessional. For a MOD, you should act more professional. Since you show Zecanin how you really are, accusing people of nonexisting acts, then Zecanin surely knows what to do with you!Putz!
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Ilium(Login Iliumia)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 19 2007, 7:59 AM
Oh, by the way, Arxileas. You could be that faggot Yorgos. With your lack of intelligence, it seems that you are.
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Ilium(Login Iliumia)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 19 2007, 10:18 AM
"Memebers vote for an individual "not some uknown individuals using a Mods id as if it were a toy. This to me a gross violation of trust throught these forums and a slap to the owners face..."
As far as this gross violation of trust you speak of, what stops you from letting someone in your family, or even friends, use your account and MOD privileges that go with it?You see, anyone can abuse this, if they want. Every MOD is in fact slapping the owner in the face, dumb****! What has stopped you from giving your wife your password to your account. You can come up with all the excuses that comes out of your ass, but the truth is you have opened up pandora's box.My suggestion is to take away all MOD privileges from EVERYONE, until the owner can figure out a failsafe program of appointing new MODS that would never do such a thing. Oh, wait, no one can really prove that they are not letting others use their accounts.Oh well, No MODS then. That will fix it.You are a pathetic Greek, attempting to discredit my husband AGAIN, and have it backfire in your face, AGAIN.Do this Greek/Albanian a favor. SHHHHHHHHHHHUT UUUUUUUUUUP!!!
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Below, Arxileas responds and clearly makes claim that Donika is using my account with MOD privileges:
Arxileas (Login Arxileas)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 19 2007, 10:18 AM
Donika."""Sorry. I have my own account here.""
Precisely why you shouldn't be using? your husbands ID and why would you want to use it for? YOU were not appionted as Mods by anyone.
"But if I happen to use my husband's, is that a crime, dimswitch?"
"This is what you fail to understand, that your husband was appointed as Mods and NOT you...And this has nothing to do whose computer etc; BUT the Mods ID it's self as it can be abused under the wrong hands. A non mod id member can use a couple ids if they wish to BUT the Mods id SHOULD NOT be used by tom, dick and harry or by anyone else BUT by the person who was appionted for Mods and is a gross abuse of power for your hubby to have given access or the pass word to it to you or anyone else???. No one knows the pass word to my Mods id BUT myself alone BECAUSE IT WAS ME who was appionted as Mods by the Greek members AND I WOULDN"T WANT TO ABUSE THEIR TRUST IN ME and that's how it out to be AND not be given to a power hungry spouse.It's a gross violation to the members trust now. I doubt it any one would be able to trust person / persons using that Id any where on these forums as of now...That Mods id has been tarnished beyond repair...No one is blowing anything out of proprtion BUT you in a desperate attemt to regain some dignity FAR too late for that as the damage to G"S and his Mods status has been done...Zetamin or Zecanin doubt if anyone can trust G"S as of now...he's more then violated all the forums rules time after time NOW this nutshell!!!!!!You know what to do Zecanine, Zetamin.Excuse any typos as it's late and am tired BUT i do trust you do the right thing Zetamin.
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As stated by Arxileas above, he continues to falsely claim that I have given my wife access to my account with MOD privileges. How fvckin' lame is that for a MOD to accuse another of doing. What stops Arxileas from letting a family member use his account (as pointed out by my wife). Below my wife points out that she has her own account without MOD privileges:
Ilium(Login Iliumia)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 19 2007, 10:21 AM
Excuse me but how am I using my husband's ID when I have my own account.
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Then Donika makes an excellent point by asking Arxileas to open another account to see if MOD privileges automatically appear. They do not and will not because you, Zecanin, have control of what account gets these privileges:
Ilium(Login Iliumia)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 19 2007, 10:24 AM
Excuse me again but you need to try something, since you are a s.hit for brains. Create another account for yourself and go to the Forums that you are MOD here. I bet you are not able to retain those MOD privileges in your new account? I betcha!@!!
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Then Arxileas tries to save face by accusing Donika of falling deeper into something fictitious with me. The old anti-GreekSlav agenda is that exactly, old and still prevalent. It just will not die:
Arxileas (Login Arxileas)
Re: Za ZetamanaNo score for this post
March 19 2007, 10:25 AM
Donika you are falling deeper into your graves along with G"S so please refrain from further digging it deeper.No one is degrading his dignity but yous two on your own. This old anti Slav agenda is very old trick and has worn out thick and fast.I'm done here...I take no pleasure from this BUT as a MOD my self have a right to a saying MORE then you Madam.Night...
Arxileas purely stepped over the line by making such an accusation of me concerning letting my wife use my account. It was a deliberate attack, falsely accusing me of this act and the post directed at you. He continues to take every stab he can muster at me and now he has permanently severed the tolerate relationship we had.
Zecanin, do you really want a MOD that plays these kinds of games with others he does not like, or does not care for only because that person does not kneel for anyone and does not surcome to blind conformity, as he? I am not afraid to speak out againest something I disagree with and that is the personality he attacks.
I will try very hard not respond to that low life Arxileas. But I ask you to review his behavior as a MOD. What he has tried with me is appalling and needs to stop. And the only way to stop is to get his butt down off his high horse.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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As with the Macedonian Moderator Komitadji: He is pathetic, as many will attest. Since he no longer cares for me because of my views that do not coincide with his, he has modified the forum rules to the point now that he has and will delete all my posts until my MOD privileges are revoked. Again, another MOD that is biased and attacks individuals, not ideas. All I have done is made my views public, which he does not like, and my application of the forum rules to everyone that breaks them, even him.
Here are a few posts of his and their links to verify his intentions:
Anonymous(Login KOMITADJI)
Re: Greek****arNo score for this post
June 13 2007, 5:04 AM
Don't tell me the games you play with your wife in bad, squeezing **** out of heads or whatever, ughh, keep your shiptaric custom to yourself.And idiot, your posts don't exist on the Macedonian Forum until you are no longer a mod there, simple.Za nea nie se borime, za nea nie umreme, Makedonija, 20 Juli
Anonymous(Login KOMITADJI)
Re: ZETAMAN - PROBUDE SE BRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!No score for this post
June 13 2007, 5:11 AM
You and your imaginary life, London, Bosnia, Us, who gives a **** about your shiptar hopscotch life? Nobody does pal.No point in going back to the same circle, your posts do not exist in the Macedonian Forum until your mod powers are removed, there is no negotiations about it. You can even poll the Macedonian members of the Macedonian forum and see what they think, their opinion is the same as mine, WE DO NOT WANT A FOREIGNER AND A MORON AT THAT TO MODERATE OUR FORUM.The jigs up pal, you will either be removed from the Macedonian Mod Group or there will be no Macedonians to post on the Macedonian Forum.ZETA, AJDE BRE KADE SI?????? THIS FOOL IS STOPPING ANY PROGRESS ON THE MACEDONIAN FORUM, WE DO NOT WANT HIM AS A MOD THERE, GET HIM OUT!!!!!!MACEDONIANS HAVE SAID NO TO GREEKSHIPTAR AS MODERATOR.MACEDONIANS WANT MACEDONIAN MODERATORS, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER FORUMS HAVE HERE AT NETWORK54.Za nea nie se borime, za nea nie umreme, Makedonija, 20 Juli
Komi is turning the Macedonian forum into a place where there will be no meaningful discussions on any subject. How can a forum exist to function as a forum when all posts debating a view are deleted?
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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"Arxileas
(Login Arxileas)
Greece Forum Mods Group Re: Banning of GreekSlav
No score for this post June 13 2007, 3:40 PM
All I did was air a geniune complaint like the previous Mods have on here and he simly attacked the forum to the extend of making threats, NOW it's three forums he's attacking [one he's using as a base]. He has always done this, to the previous Greek mods you remember how it is...
According to him it's ONLY him that's allowed to air his veiws. O_o"
I am allowed and have a right to air my views without discriminatory policies from a MOD. That is all I fight for. MOD's in the past did the same but more out in the open. One even resorted to deletion of all threads on the Greek forum.
Since Arxileas wrongfully believes that I have caused him to complain, and really had nothing substantiating to complain about, he resorted to manipulation, deceit and false accusations. Sure sign of a loser MOD.
But no threats were made. I simply decided that Arxileas is an imblink and I lashed out at him. No one else. And I will continue to lash out at him if he continues his dumb-ass misuse of MOD privileges for the benefit of the anti GreekSlav agenda. Arxileas whines about this agenda being old. I agree. Him and the others need to accept the fact that I will fight for my rights here and will air my disgust at the discrimination and ignorance toward me. They stop, I stop. It's as simple as that.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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"""I am allowed and have a right to air my views without discriminatory policies from a MOD."""
That's exactley what I am fighting for, the right to express / air complaints without the threats made from people like you. You nailed it...This is getting old Slav. It's been a few days now when are you going to get over it?
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You, like so many other MODS, know very well how to play the discriminatory card on those you've deemed non-compliant for a Greek. I am sorry you have to do this and it is quite sad. But you are who you are, and not a very good MOD at that.
Don't you get it? Treat me and others fair and all this will stop. It's that simple. Why is it so hard for you to do such a simple thing? Why is it that when I continue to fight for my rights, you resort to deceit, manipulation and accusations? It's so much easier to debate the issues instead of attacking the individual. You take a very difficult route, Arxileas. I am sorry for that. But do not do what you do and call it right. I am right for fighting for my rights on these forums and to go againest the oppressor. There is no other way for me.
Treat me fair and use your MOD privileges as it is meant to be used and all this will stop. This is no threat, Arxileas. It's diplomacy.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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"""You, like so many other MODS, know very well how to play the discriminatory card on those you've deemed non-compliant for a Greek."""
Hey idiot i aired my veiws and got attacked for it by you on here [another example your wife attacked me for airing my veiws], all the posts you have posted here is a testimony to it. You defied the Greek Mods rules and warnings and copped a ban, like you ban others what's more special about you?
Stop the innocent play card sooner or later it'll blow on your face. Like no one will notice the threats made in here "doh" idiot.
Give the Montenegros back their forum and leave them in peace. Oh Inconsiderate one
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Not only that on same link, I was protecting you so are you sure I'm biased, please see bellow how you thanked me. Also note see how long you've been trolling yep since then december last year. That's why the ban was neccassery because enough was enough idiot.
I closed them two topics to stop other members from attacking you and to stop the flame wars from continuing, the forum isn't a personal diary you know.
""then do the same for this irrelevant reposting.""
No this is to show the very rules you imposed on everyone a while ago and agreed on and are the very same rules you have been breaching these past days along with other members.
Then yours;
Demosthenes Porphyrogenitus
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Albania Forum Mods Group
Re: Forum Rules
No score for this post December 5 2006, 5:39 AM
"I closed them two topics to stop other members from attacking you and to stop the flame wars from continuing, the forum isn't a personal diary you know."
Excellent move. Thank you.
See how your lies are being exposed my dear...
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I remember that what you post. Yes, I did thank you because I gave you the benefit of the doubt that the locking of those threads were for the purpose you told me. What is wrong with that? Now you use something I agreed upon with you againest me. See how manipulative and deceitful you are?
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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Arxileas, you are desperately trying to find fault in everything I do or say on the Greek forum.
Now, I agree that I deserve the ban there. I lashed out at you, no one else. In my eyes, you are a pathetic example of a MOD. The bias and ignorance you exhibit toward me is due to only one reason. And this reason is the same for all the Greeks that attack me. That I am an outspoken Greek that does not support ignorant or stupid agendas, Greek or non-Greek. That is how it has been since I came to these forums. Again, this anti GreekSlav agenda is quite old. But you and the others continue with it. I could see if I came slamming into these forums as an ignorant and beligerent poster. But I did not. I merely aired my views and debated others I questioned. For that, I have been targeted personally. And you let it happen.
Don't you think I have the right to try and end this? Now I realize that I can not end the ignorance from most posters. But I will attack MODS that support this ignorance and targeting WITHOUT HESITATION. It is inappropriate for MODS to follow this behavior. You have shown me that you are capable of turning a blind eye to some posters when they post attacks on individuals. I wish that you had never done that. But to be manipulative and deceitful to try and get your way with me is unforgivable.
You have two choices. You either abide by the forum rules or relinguish your duties as a MOD. Would it not be easier to just support all the rules instead of applying just some to a certain group of posters and all to the others? Are you afraid that if you support all the rules, that many of your Greek compatriots will ditch you? If you are worried about that, you need not be a MOD. I apply all the rules to everyone on the Macedonian forum. My compatriot Komi has gone againest me for doing so. SO WHAT? Rules are rules. The funny thing is that both Greek and Macedonian MODS and posters have decided that since I apply the rules to them, that I am no longer Greek or Macedonian!!! How pathetic and childish.
I can see that if you are a supervisor or manager, you would be play the favoritism card very well.
Arxileas, end the discrimination now. Attack ideas, not people.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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"Give the Montenegros back their forum and leave them in peace. Oh Inconsiderate one"
Arxileas, I have been communicating with Zecanin concerning Komi on this thread. It was YOU that started posting comments about me here, NOT I posting comments about you. Since you started, I responded.
So what is your point with the comment?
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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I applaud you for exercising your rights, that’s what freedom of speech is to air ones concerns without the fear of threats and insults directed at them.
I made a sincere complaint on this topic as not to create another one as this forum is already littered with topics titled “Zecanin or Carla” its called consideration and respect of this nation’s forum.
I made one genuine complaint and was threatened along with insults along with desrupting the Elliniko forum for all, seems you cannot grasp what freedom of speech really is or perhaps you have this mental picture of an “Alfa Male status?” none one is pissing corners with you mate. You’ve expressed your concerns without threats and insults many times. Threats are for children, not grown up level headed Men.
NO ONE SHOULD BE THREATENED SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY AIRED THEIR THOUGHTS ON A CONCERNING MATTER.
What ever Zecanin decides I will accept, if I go as a Mod i will leave the forums for good and you'll be around to continue this farce, but I will not stop fighting for the right to freedom of speech, also the Greeks will be the losers once again with many things the Greeks will be thinking "biased" comming to mind. Whilst there is a Turkish Mod whos gotten away with murder practicaly "KanunuSS"
If you think this would improve things that’s where you are wrong, it has always been like this with people who voice their concerns about you, then you let loose at any forum as if you own them, start to threaten and insult users, hardley a Mods behaviour hardley.
Always remember. Threats are for children, not grown up level headed Men.
Get some anger managment help dude. IMO this so gay "an expression" all of this.
That's all.
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You simply posted a deceitful and manipulative lie. You also made a very seriously undeserving and very inaccurate accusation directed at me. I will not stand idle at such unMODly behavior.
And I made no threats at all.
Hope you get well soon.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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The Mak forum has turned into the most fanatical and most ignorant forum in this place. Its appalling that a misaligned idiot like Komitadji (who only calls himself that because he likes the football team in Skopje) is a moderator on that forum. I refuse to recognize him as a Macedonian. He acts more like a Nazi piece of crap.
"A word about to be spoken is like a stone that is ready to be thrown"
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My posts are continuing to be deleted on the Mak forum. So here are the last two posts I made on the thread you started a few days ago:
EllinikosSlava
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Makedonija Forum Mods Group Re: 1) Kurjaca's posts were deleted; 2) About local mods!
No score for this post June 30 2007, 3:56 PM
Strong words from one that plays dirty here, Komitadji.
You guys are really funny. First the Greeks claim that I am not Greek because I do not submit and approve of all Greek thought on certain matters on these forums. They claim me as Macedonian only and consider me as non-Greek or anti-Greek.
Now you, who claim to be Macedonians, claim that I am not Macedonian because I do not submit and approve of all Macedonian thought on certain matters on these forums. You claim me as Greek only and consider me as a non-Macedonian.
And you, who claim to be Macedonian, call my views that do not match yours as attacks and disrespect toward Macedonians.
Zetaman, do you really want these kinds of biased so-called Macedonians as Moderators?
I am the product of a Greek father and Macedonian mother. Whatever you so called Macedonians say will never change that.
You have no real complaints againest me.
It is you that has destroyed this forum, when I only wanted to fix it. Rules are rules so if you break them, poster or MOD, I applied the edits/deletions as appropriate. No favoritism for anyone. My job as a MOD here does not make friends when playing fair, does it?
"Everywhere man blames nature and fate, yet his fate is mostly but the echo of his character and passions, his mistakes and weaknesses"
EllinikosSlava
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Makedonija Forum Mods Group Re: 1) Kurjaca's posts were deleted; 2) About local mods!
No score for this post June 30 2007, 4:10 PM
Zetaman, there was a thread started here yesterday by Akritas, that I responded to. It was a post outlining a comment made by Archbishop John about the ancient Macedonians. It was deleted by one of the other MODS here. The post by Akritas was not disrespectful but for fanatical Macedonians, I am sure it was and the reason it was deleted.
I would like it reposted. The deletion of these respectable threads posted by non-Macedonians is the reason this forum is on its death bed. These deletions deprive us, who want to debate, from actual doing so. It is unfair for those that want a forum for debating and discussions. These fanatical mods we have (Komitadji, Epoch and whoever else is involved) are taking everything away from this forum, destroying it, and then pointing the finger at me.
I am going to be selfish now, Zetaman, and say that I want these fanatical Mako MODS striped of their duties as MODerators. They do not know how to handle the power.
Apologizes to Akritas.
"Everywhere man blames nature and fate, yet his fate is mostly but the echo of his character and passions, his mistakes and weaknesses"
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