This is a clip from a pro greek documentary. Watch at around the 6:30 minute mark and see for yourselfs.

http://www.youtube.com/v/wfxaH5MICBg

Well what did you see? I saw two old Macedonian ladies talking to the confused kid in Macedonian. So this brings up the question why are these people calling themselves greeks when they cant speak greek? What are they afraid of? Isn't greece is a free democratic country that has excellent rights for its minorities?

"Well what did you see? I saw two old Macedonian ladies talking to the confused kid in Macedonian. So this brings up the question why are these people calling themselves greeks when they cant speak greek? What are they afraid of? Isn't greece is a free democratic country that has excellent rights for its minorities?"


You must be on drugs.... The old women speak Greek in heavy accent as the other villagers....
Its no use to try to dictate to non Greek speaking people your twisted views....

Stoner of the week award to goes to this (guy). The old ladies are complementing the kid on his looks in Macedonian, (Explicit deleted). I can't speak greek but I still know what it sounds like when I hear it. Do you even know what day it is mate? (Insult deleted).

You are losing your temper by calling names... Typical reaction of uneducated Mongrels (With this comment, you are definitely breaking the rules. Keep it up and you will be escorted out of here)

If you cant speak Greek, how can you know what they are talking about? Maybe you forgot to connect the speakers to your computer (Insult deleted)

Its like talking to a brick wall, it really is. Those two old Macedonian ladies were complementing the kid on his looks in Macedonian. Greekslav can you please tell this fool that those old ladies were not speaking greek.

Honestly how can someone be this dumb, the confused kid himself states that he cant speak greek.

You are proving to us how ignorant, illiterate and delusional you are boy....
Stop the pot cause its bad for the few braincell you have left....

The old lady and the boy are speaking Macedonian, or Slavic as the boy says, but I am sure he is being very careful what he says on film, in Greece. He would not say he is speaking Macedonian, even though there is no Greek language called that. He is being very politically correct!!!!!

Now, Dies irae, you are belligerent and need to put on more of an intelligent demeanor instead of hustle. You have already made known your racist tendencies in another thread. Chill, dude, or begone.

DanielMaco, do not stoop to this guys level. Keep a respectable face.





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G.S,

why would those guys need to be politically correct? The film was made by British and Americans not Greeks and so they would have no reason not to speak the truth of how and what they feel.

Just because your mother and her family consider themselves Macedonian does not mean that every other Slavic speaker in greece feels the same way. They clearly stated that THEY ARE GREEKS who speak a Slavic language. Why is it not possible that their ancestors may have been Greek but due to the heavy Slavic influence in the area their family came to speak Slavonic as their primary language? The one cousin did undersand Greek when he was talking with the old men at the table.

They feel Greek and that's what they stated, so why question that?

For Daniel what is the language spoken in the border areas between your country Bulgaria and Serbia? I have made a post about it several weeks ago.

In no way did I imply that because my Macedonian side of the family consider themselves Macedonian., that every other Slavic speaker in Greece feels the same. Only you have implied that and it is an excellent example of how you guys manipulate and distort others posts. It makes it quite difficult to even respond.

I never responded to their feelings of being Greek. That is no problem with me. It is the fact that they never meantioned that what they were speaking was anything specific. They merely said "Slavic". Well, there are many "Slavic" languages so which is it? I believe there is a great possibility that it is Macedonian, but there can also be a chance they speak of "Bulgarian". These were the perdominate "Slavic" speakers in Northern Greece prior to 1917.

I never questioned their feelings. I always respect that. It was the non-specification of the language they speak that I am referring to.

Being politically correct in Greece concerning the use of the word "Slavic" verses "Macedonian" in reference to language is a most, given the politics of the subject concerning the word "Macedonia" or "Macedonian". You can not deny that.



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I wasn't impying anything. As for what they speak why does it have to be classified? Why can't it just be a Slavic dialect related to both Bulgarian and MAK? They may also not want to use the term because they don't identify with either Makedonja or Bulgaria. Maybe their ancestors fought against the Bulgarians and also fought against the Communist and thats why they just call their language "Slavic". Anyways I know many Slavic speakers in Greece call their language Dopia and vehemently deny any connection to ROM or Bulgaria.

If the documentary was made by Greeks for Greeks I could understand the politically correct aspect, but it wasn't! It was made for audiences in North America and England.

The reality of the matter is that the only connection they have to ROM is MAYBE a few relatives who fled after the Greek Civil War. They have never been their or Bulgaria and all they know is Greece. So what else should they call themselves?

They are simply Slavic-speaking Greeks who live in the Region of Macedonia. They are neither MAKs or Bulgars.

The film was made in Greece and it does not matter who was involved in making the film. If it was made in Greece, then there were certain "requirements" to be adhered to.


You may be correct concerning your comments on the "classification" issue of the language. Or maybe not. Who knows for sure.




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Even films made in Korea or Libya or Iraq during Sadams era or China... said whatever the filmaker wanted... and you believe in Greece.. Americans bended on their knees.? lol lol

I think you cannot convince even yourself.

Those kids are pure Macedonians like me, Akritas, Arxileas, Istor etc etc who live in diaspora. Simple. Get over it.

The film was made in Greece and it does not matter who was involved in making the film. If it was made in Greece, then there were certain "requirements" to be adhered to.
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utternonsence......
greece is a country that midway chunta the filmmakers were making anti-fascist films,and faced the consequences....
these ultra left fiml makers ,weren't subordinated by chunta ,and you tell us that they are a secret masson network against the slav.....
bullcrap..
the reality as the arvanites,the vlachs the small community of slavic speakers in greece feel greek...
they choosed to remain in greece in the 50s as a result of their conscience in comparison to the other they left....

Yes Constantinous... but Tito does not agree!.. lol lol lol Who cares? If Tito said so... then it is so. lol lol

Tito is a nice scapegoat for you Greeks that want to live in you deillusions..... but there are many things that point in a direction long before old Papa Tito was born.... how to deal with that Basil? Stick your head in the sand?

my friend jordan, everybody knows that the term Macedonia was revived by the bulgarian komitajes. they used it to encourage the Christians of vardar area and Macedonia to revolt against the turks so they can easily pop in and incorporate it in the bulgarian state. as the Christians of east rumelia modern south bulgaria, both Hellenes and bulgarians called for autonomy from the ottoman empire and accomplished their goal. of course the bulgarian army moved to the south and claimed the area without firing a single bullet. the same conditions existed in Macedonia and the vardar area. mixed Christian population mostly Hellenes and bulgarians along with confused people from Christian intermixing and many disappointed turks. the claim of the bulgarian komitajis was clearly a REGIONAL TERM not an ethnical. even today your bulgarian friends call you macedonians with the meaning of a bulgarian from Macedonia.
uncle tito just changed a small detail giving the meaning of ethnicity to the term Macedonian and created the famous connection with the ancient Macedonians.

a small question to my friend jordan:

the slavophones in Macedonia no matter if they considered themselfs Hellenes or bulgarians or makedonskis many of them had last names with suffix -ov or -ev. those suffixes are 100% slavic and MOSTLY USED in bulgaria. serbs use -ic among others and russians -off among others. after the war those -ov and -ev suffixes were disappeared from both Hellas and the south state of yugoslavia.
for Hellas it is very obvious that a strict process has been followed to clear all the slavic traces on the people that chose to stay after the exchange of population between Hellas and bulgaria. but in south yugoslavia, a country that recognized the existence and the history of the makedonski that were the original descendants of alexander, a similar procedure was followed! the polish suffix -ski was added in all surnames so uzunov became uzunovski and gruev became gruevski. "bad" bulgarians claim that this was a debulgariazantion move, a tool of makedonism. your canadian and australian diaspora that descended from west Macedonia (florina, kastoria, kozani etc) complain that Hellenes CHANGED BY FORCE THEIR MACEDONIAN SURNAMES. those surnames had -ov and -ev suffixes BUT NO -ski suffix....

can u tell me why the makedonskis from diaspora that descended from florina etc call the -ov and -ev surnames as macedonian and tito in yugoslavia considered them dangerous (even bulgarian some say...) and added the polish -ski suffix on them?
are the -ov and -ev surnames bulgarian or macedonian? if they are macedonian why tito changed them just like bad Hellenes did?

People who want to hellenize themselves are not Greek in the begining. But, if they insist not to speak Greek, then we will reject them and we will not accept them as Greeks.

Istor
Solun or Thessaloniki?
Conflict about Macedonian name

Panagiotis , he cannot answer that question, dont expect a response. Yes why oh why would Tito change a 'Machedonski' name and add SKI to it if it is already 'Machedonski'??? To de bulgarize them of course
Here are some examples ,
Klashev = Klashevski Nedelkov = Nedelkovski Popoff = Popovski
Stoikov = Stojkovski Stojanoff = Stojanovski Radeff = Radevski
There are many many more , not enough time to post them all

People who want to hellenize themselves are not Greek in the begining. But, if they insist not to speak Greek, then we will reject them and we will not accept them as Greeks.

I bet that you would never say this in a room full of Greeks that do not speak Greek. They would have a field day with you. You know better than to tell a Greek that he/she is not Greek and will not be accepted as Greek just because they do not speak Greek. You are not so smart for making a statement like that. Matter-of-fact, this tells me more and more that you yourself are not Greek.





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Istor I think GS has right to this point... suprisingly! lol lo . What language has to do with ethnicity?

This video is so funny to watch, it really gives you a glimps of the Greek Hellenizing apparatus, so this boy according to you Greeks is a lost Greek who no speaks "slavic" and must relearn his original mothertounge Greek..... 8)

The question is.... "according to Greeks".. or "according to himself" ?

"Freedom of speach" isnt the stuff when accusing Greeks... I think? ... right?

Its a free country teacher. Here we dont produce "Macedonians". People know.... they dont wait to learn from school books like Tito era the last 40-50 years.

I spoke with some young guys from your country last summer. NOBODY knew the expression "Vardarska Banovina"... it was the first time the heard about it.... and they were supprised for having that name.... since your schools.... HIDE IT!

We dont produce ethnicities teacher.... you produce.

That's a name that was around for about 15 years, we have been called Macedonia for thousands, why would any significance be given to it?

How many Greeks would know their land was called Morea for 100's of years?


By the way Bashel, what happened to your "greek" Macedonia from 4000bc? Have you been working out a new figure yet or what? LOL,

Za nea nie se borime, za nea nie umreme, Makedonija, 20 Juli

Go to bed son, its late.

PS: Next time don't misquote me

What happened?? Read the history of Thessaloniki Kommi... and you tell me! Try to find something that does not connotes my Macedonia and connotes "your Macedonia"... and point it out!
Even the king of Epirus knew in which hands should give the city... lol lol
Even Goths have more juridiction to Macedonian capital since they have attacked befofe you.. lol lol



Re: Thessaloniki the Eternal Capital of Macedonia
No score for this post November 18 2006, 7:36 PM


315 BC: Foundation of the city by Kassandros, King of Macedonians. The city is
baptized Thessaloniki after the name of the sister of Alexander the Great.
The name means in Greek, “Victory against the Thessalians”

146-120 BC: Construction of “Via Egnatia”, from Roman rulers, the road from Adriatic Sea to Thrace.

50 AD: Apostle Paul chooses Thessaloniki to introduce Christianism in Europe. His
first“Letter” in Europe

253,262,269 AD: Goths attack the city

4th century AD: The Roman Galerious Valerious Maximinianos builds Palace, Hippodrome
and Arch

305 AD, 26 October: St. Demetrious dies as a Martyr of Christianism. Since then he is
the City’s Saint

390 AD: Rebellion of the citizens against the Gothic Guard of the city. After the .
order of Byzantine Emperor Theodosius A’, 7,000 citizens were slaughtered
inside Hippodrome

412 AD: The Basilica of St Demetrious. A Church to honor St Demetrious

620 AD: Earthquake

9th century AD: The Thessalonikian brothers Methodios and Cyrilous teach Christianism to
the Slavic population in Balkans. Also they create a Slavic dictionary so as
to help them in communicating with Byzantines.

904 AD: Saracen pirates enter and destroy the city.

9th-10th century AD: Continuous attacks to the city by Bulgarians. Failure to capture the
city.

1185 AD: Attacks and capture of the city by Normans.

1204-1224 AD: Attacks and capture of the city by Francs.

1224 AD: Thessaloniki is recaptured by Theodoros Dukas Komninos the Prince of Epirus
and gives the rule back to its Greek citizens.

1342-1349 AD: Rebellion of Zealots. Rulers of the city.

1430 AD, 29 March: Attack and capture of the city by Ottomans.

1821-1823 AD: Terror and death in the city by the Ottoman rulers due to the Greek rebellion
in South Greece and Halkidiki peninsula. Population falls from 50,000 to 7,000

1850-1900 AD: Jew population from Spain arrives in the city.

1904-1908 AD: Macedonian Struggle begins. Greek consultants in Thessaloniki help the
rebels.

1908 AD: NeoTourks are the new rulers of Thessaloniki. Ottoman Empire does not exist any
more as a term.

1912-1913 AD: Balkan wars

1912 AD, 26 Oct: Greek army enters the city. Turkish army surrenders and the city goes back
to the Macedonian citizens.

1915 AD: English and French troops “arrive” in the city. The same year they live the city.

1943 AD: Extermination of the Jew population of the city from Nazi occupation troops.

1985 AD: City’s birthday- 2,300 years!

1997 AD: Thessaloniki becomes the European Capital of Culture.
Population reaches 1 million people.

Lokum is also greek, isn't it?

CULTURE THIEVES!!

HAHAHAHA, BASHEL, FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN POSTING HERE YOU HAVE MADE STATEMENTS LIKE "MACEDONIA IS GREEK SINCE 4000BC",

AND NOW YOU GIVE ME A TIMELINE OF SALONIKA? HAHAHAHAHA


WHERE IS YOU 4000BC HISTORY IN MACEDONIA YOU LIAR??????

COME ON, ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG, THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF THIS

Za nea nie se borime, za nea nie umreme, Makedonija, 20 Juli

I give you the history of the capital of Macedonia.... and you bla bla bla.

I give you the words of Alexander the King of Macedon admitting his Greekness... and you bla bla bla.

I give you ancient writers saying about the Macedonians... and you bla bla bla

I give you data from your own politicians saying that you're Slavs that have nothing to do with Macedonians... and you bla bla bla


Now you want me to reffer to the period of 4000 BC since you know there is no data for that period....and the question is..

1)What do you care since from the moment we have data... its Greek

2)Even if we forget everything that we know... and even if we assume that Macedonians are finnally not Greeks... WHY DO YOU CARE? lol lol YOU ARE A SLAV BOY! YOU CAME IN THE AREA 600 YEARS AFTER JESUS WAS BORN! WHY DO YOU CARE?? I should care for not being Greek... not you! lol lol

Propaganda and insults deleted.

Even ancient greek history didn't start before 4,000 years ago.

actually they are from Hellenic tribes that settled in that region 4000 years ago. Tribes where moving around throughout the Aegean and mainland Greece then settled in their regions and latter became the Greek city states. their are many findings and settlement remains that prove this.

If they where not then what is this.

8000 year old stolen artifacts are returned to Greece

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=aPK9Gj3xrKNI&refer=muse

Bashel said: "you want me to reffer to the period of 4000 BC since you know there is no data for that period"

Then don't make pathetic claims like Macedonia has been greek since 4000bc or that Macedonia is greek for 4000 years when YOU CANNOT PROVE IT.

The earliest records about Macedonia from Hesiod and Homer make it clear that Macedonia is NOT greek.

Za nea nie se borime, za nea nie umreme, Makedonija, 20 Juli

we have already proven that Macedonia is Greek with archaeological evidence that cannot be disputed.

their are many remains of Hellenic settlements dating back to 4000BC in Macedonia. Their are countless artifacts found in Macedonia in Greek.

How many ancient artifacts with Slavic writing have been found in Macedonia?

Extracts from scholarly literature on confirming the Greek ethnic character of ancient Macedonian society.


1)'We are not to be amazed that in the archaeological material of Pelagonia we have a rarely great wealth of reflections of all pronounced cultural events in the relations between middle-Danubian and Graeco-Aegean world'
Mikulcic,Ivan "Pelagonija",Skopje,1966,pp.2

'In a such great chronological distance in the life of ancient Pelagonia two stages are visible: development and existence in the frames of Hellenic culture and later the Roman one'

Ibid.,pp.4


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2)'The lower part of Vardar is certainly the area south of Demir-Kapija gorge that entered Hellenic cultural sphere very early and already before 600 b.c. the material culture is thoroughly Hellenised.'
"The Valley of Vardar in Ist millennium b.c",Skopje,1982,pp.2


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3)'Even in the last decades of 5th century stabilization in all spheres of social life is established. As first sign of the new time import from Graeco-Macedonian south appeared as well as fortified settlements that later grew into urban centers with character of economic and religious nuclei of the region'
"Guide to the archaeological exhibition",Skopje,1996,pp.54


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4)'For example,Pelagonia,which is naturally oriented to the South, was the first to be subjected to Greek influence, together with the lower part of Vardar'
"Archaeologic Map of the Republic of Macedonia",Skopje,1996,pp.71


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5)'From the mountains of Epirus Dorian Makednoi (Macedonians) made their advance towards Macedonia, conquering the native tribes who latter gained new, Hellenistic culture and after that are politically organized into a powerful state'
"The Art in Macedonia",Skopje,1984 pp.26


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6)'Paeonians,a people who during the first millennia b.c inhabited border area between the three great paleobalkanic peoples-Illyrians, Thracians and Hellenes'
Veljanovska,Fanica "An Attempt at Anthropological Definition of the Paeonians",Skopje,1994


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7)'...Certain proto-populations occupying distinct areas of the Balkans could be distinguished on the territories of the cultural groups :in western part of the Balkans the proto-Illyrians, in the east the proto Thracians, in the south the Hellenes, in the northern part of the Balkans the proto Daco-Mysians and in the southwest of the Central Balkans the proto Bryges.'
"Bryges on the central Balkans in the 2nd and 1st millennium b.c." (summary)

"Arheologija" No 1,Skopje 1995


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8)'With the end of Iron Age III, i.e. with the total Hellenisation of material culture,the prehistory of Macedonia ends.'
Sanev,Vojislav "Prehistory of S.R. Macedonia",Skopje 1977,pp.13


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9)"The Art of Antiquity left in the region of Ohrid a great number of traces of its own presence.Illyrian forts imported goods from Greek centers and imitated them in a modest fashion. Political advancement of the Macedonians and their domination enabled cultural influx that manifested itself through products of crafts and alphabet. From the times of Phillip II deeper advances in the area of Lychnidos are attested.Cultural influences of the Graeco-Macedonian world are more present.Rich Hellenistic culture arrived at Illyrian soil"
"Ohrid" by Vera Bitrakova-Grozdanova ,in:"The Art in Macedonia" ,Skopje 1984, pp.85


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10)"With the increase of influences from developed cultured south and with the acceptation of Hellenic influences over Paeonia,which already in the V and IV centuries b.c.have committed great changes in the Paeonian culture, usage of Greek Pantheon was also accepted"
Petrova,Eleonora "Cults and symbolism of Paeonian tribes compared with the Illyrian and Thracian ones" in: "Macedoniae Acta Archeologica",Skopje No.13,pp.129

"Having the central position in this part of the Balkans,Paeonia,apart from receiving influences from the Hellenic south, wasn't an exception with regard to influences from Illyrian and Thracian sphere"

Ibid.,pp.134


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11)"Greek epigraphic monuments created before definitive Roman domination of our area are to be found in modest quantity"
Bitrakova Grozdanova,Vera "Hellenistic Monuments in S.R.Macedonia",Skopje,1987,pp. 130

"Study of the inscriptions speaks about epigraphic characteristics of the neighboring Macedonian-Hellenic world"

Ibidem. pp.103


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12)"During the early arhaic period at the Macedonian territory,the Dorian tribal groups came across over the Pindos mountain,to the area of today's North-Western Greece and parts of the southern Republic of Macedonia.They established several early principalities partially by chasing away the local Paeonian tribes.Those tribal groups were the ancient Macedonians"
"Macedonian Heritage",No 1,july 1996,pp.5


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13)"The northern periphery of Greek world, inhabited with ancient Macedonians and other peoples and tribes, wasn't developed for democracy as the most developed social system at that time"
Mikulcic,Ivan "Ancient towns in the Republic of Macedonia",Skopje,1999,pp.9

"Our overview was exposed chronologically. The first part embraces the early antiquity in our country, the period from 5th century b.c. up to the middle 3rd century b.c.. Throughout this centuries one can follow the Hellenic spirit and the creation of the Hellenic civilization in our areas, which left a basic imprint on the material artifacts"

Ibidem. pp.10-11


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14)"The quantitative ceramic material used to be produced with the usual process including the labor of persons .Partly because of that, partly because of the traditions that had taken roots into our soil, which with centuries before that used to be watered with Hellenic spirit and Hellenistic way of life ,the use of the building ceramics had been brought to minimum"
Lilcic,Viktor "Building ceramics in the Republic of Macedonia during the Roman Period:Scupi,Stobi,Heraclea Lynkestis,Styberra",Skopje,1996,pp.120


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15)"In any case during the classical and Hellenistic periods and especially in the 4th and 3rd centuries b.c. we can no longer speak of Paeonian cult in the Peaonian region ,but of cults adopted by the entire Hellenic civilization, where through the material culture, elements of spiritual life from developed south were adopted. This was followed by the strenghtening of the autochthonous elements above all, the solar cult. Since Paeonians were centrally located in this region of the Balkans,they were influenced from the Hellenic south but they also couldn't avoid the influences from the Illyrian and Thracian sphere"
Petrova,Eleonora "The cults, symbolism and Deities in Paeonian and neighboring regions" in:

"Macedonia and the neighboring regions from 3rd to1st millennium b.c.-Papers presented at the international symposium in Struga-1997",Skopje,1999,pp.118

Arhileas, nobody denies a Greek presence in the balkans in ancient times, not that they have anything to do with the modern "greeks". So you recycled list of quotes that you seem to circulate every three or four days are insignificant.


[their are many remains of Hellenic settlements dating back to 4000BC in Macedonia.]

Easy to claim but where is the proof? There is NO Greek archeological evidence in Macedonia prior to the 5th century.

So cut the crap with this 4000bc bullshiit or PROVE IT.

Za nea nie se borime, za nea nie umreme, Makedonija, 20 Juli

Dorians were there from 4000 BC. I think you have to prove that Dorians are not Greeks..

To remind you... Dorian tribe moved and settled down as the majority to Macedonia, Epirus, the city of Sparta and eastern Crete. So.... if you succeed to prove that Dorians are not Greeks... then you automaticaly proove that Macedonian, Epirots, Spartans and E.Creatans.... are not Greeks! lol lol

..and one more time... why do YOU care?

we have already proved it with many archaeological findings that go back to the spread of early Hellenic tribes from the Neolithic age.

their are many settlement remains of these tribes found all over Greece and same in Greek Macedonia. And the source i showed few post up show 8000 year old Greek artifacts.

These tribes eventually became the Greek city states like Macedonia,Athens,Sparta etc.and history continues from their.

' Macedonian Rock Groups may claim Alexander the Great as a forefather of thier nation but even the recent scholarly histories of the Macedonians spanning three millenia are spurious and only lay the Macedonians open to the ridicule of those who would deny thier nationhood; the Macedonian regional name is Ancient but contemporary Macedonians are among the newest nations in Europe'
The Times - Guide to the Peoples of Europe pg 224

Kommi have you have been listening to these Rock Groups??
Your trying so hard to prove that Ancient Macedonians werent Greek, and so what? what if they werent Greek?? Whatever they were they werent what YOU are today. Like Basil says what to YOU care
The biggest mistake of your nationals was to dwell into the history part, did you think people were going to believe you?? Read the quote again, the world is laughing at you!!

And to the lukum guy, i guess Kebapi is an ancient Makadonski dish right?
Just like the Serbian pig dance you do at weddings!

BzNzSBoomN wrote:
"Just like the Serbian pig dance you do at weddings!"

Sir if you do not know more about this dance than that....... please go and read some history books...... the dance is THRACIAN.

Read books, that is good.

The one on the left had her son killed by his second cousin because he refused to join him as a Partizan. The old lady decided that she will not have anything to do with your kind ever in her life....she is no different to all her relatives...a gorgeous Greek Lady.
Why do you view your slef as Macedonian...after all the language you speak has nothing to do with Macedonia?

Бабата вика: „Многу лично дете имаме... златно дете“- We have a very beautiful kid... golden kid, said the granny. She speaks Macedonian Aegean accent. Poor guy, how bad must he feel. After all the terror and killing and the genocide they didn't manage to destroy our language and make us forget it. They'll start to wander why they speak, as they call it, Slavic, and they'll find out, that they are Macedonian, one day, which is not far away they'll be able to say freely I'm a Macedonian, I speak Macedonian, one of the Southern Slavic languages, I'm different than the Greeks. You won't be able to hide the truth forever Greeks, you'll have to apologise for the genocide after the II WW and you'll have to guarantee all the rights for the minorities in Greece.

Maybe other people will believe this video, we know what's the point. This people are afraid. Or they have been brainwashed. But, I am not sad when I see this video, because I know that roots cannot be deleted. One cannot forget the native language after years of pressure.
Разбудете се Македонци. Нашата Мајка не ве заборави, не ја заборавајте ни вие неа.

I spoke with some young guys from your country last summer. NOBODY knew the expression "Vardarska Banovina"... it was the first time the heard about it.... and they were supprised for having that name.... since your schools.... HIDE IT!

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Vardarska Banovina was Macedonia called during the Serbian occupation after the Bucharest agreement between Serbia, Bulgaria and Greece, so shut up. Banovina means a political unit governed by Ban, an old Serbian title. And it was called Vardarska because the Serbs, just like you Greeks up to 18 years ago, didn't wanted to even mention the name Macedonia, because they had a politics that Macedonians are southern Serbians. And also, because with the Bucharest agreement, they got the Vardarian part of Macedonia, Bulgaria got the Pirin, and Greece got the Aegean and as you may know committed genocide. That's why these people say that they are Greek. Vardar is by the way the name of the river, which you Greeks call Axios, I think. Nobody hides the name Vardarska Banovina, people don't know it because it's irrelevant. Why is important how my country was called during the Serbian occupation.
In the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, neither was Serbia Serbia, nor was Croatia Croatia. The Banovinas were taken geographically. So there were 9 Banovinas. In Vardarska Banovina besides Macedonia, were parts of Serbia and Kosovo. The other Banovinas are: Moravska Banovina (territory of today's Serbia), Dunavska Banovina (territory of today's Serbia), Zetska Banovina (territory of today's Serbia and Montenegro), Drinska Banovina (territory of today's Serbia and Bosnia), Primorska Banovina (territory of today's Montenegro, Bosnia and Croatia), Vrbaska Banovina (territory of today's Bosnia and Croatia), Savska Banovina (territory of today's Croatia and Slovenia) and Dravska Banovina, (territory of today's Slovenia).

You must be on drugs.... The old women speak Greek in heavy accent as the other villagers....
Its no use to try to dictate to non Greek speaking people your twisted views....

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And what accent is that? As I said I understand 100 % of the things that the old woman said and I don't know neither official Greek, nor any accent. You my friend can't understand a single word, unless your granny is Macedonian too (or Slavic or Dopia whatever you like). The guy said himself that they speak Slavic at home, so shut up. I am surprised that you try to lie and hide the truth when everything is so obvious. Better go home, hide under your bed and never come out.

„Што убаво дете имаме... златно дете“- What a beautiful kid do we have, a golden (golden is used in Macedonian to express grace and love) child A typical Macedonian way of expressing the Love for the grandson.