Hi Greek fellows.
i came across to this forum by accident and looks interesting.
There is also a Greek - Turkish forum where many fights also take place.
here is the link:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/248068/
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The night before the battle of Plataea at 479 B.C. a horseman left the Persian camp and hasted towards the Greek allied camp with a message:
"Men of Athens, that which I am about to say I trust to your honour; and I charge you to keep it secret from all excepting Pausanias, if you would not want to bring me to destruction. Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Greece, I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself a Greek by descent, and I would not willingly see Greece exchange freedom for slavery. Know then that Mardonius and his army can not obtain favourable omens; had it not been for this, they would have fought with you a long time ago. Now, however, they have determined to let, the victims pass unheeded, and, as soon as day dawns, to engage in battle. Mardonius, I imagine, is afraid, that if he delays, you will increase in number. Made ready then to receive him. Should he however still defer the combat, do you abide where you are; for his provisions will not hold out many more days. If ye prosper in this war, forget not to do something for my freedom; consider the risk I have run, out of zeal for the Greek cause. To acquaint you with what Mardonius intends, and to save you from being surprised by the barbarians. I am Alexander, the son of Amyntas, king and leader of the Macedonians."
Herodotus Histories (9.45)
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After the victorious battle of the allied Greeks against the Persians in the battle of Plataea at 479 B.C. an Aeginetan man went to Pausanias, the leader of the Spartans, to counsel him to do a deed of exceeding wickedness:
"Son of Cleombrotus, what thou hast already done is passing great and glorious. By the favour of Heaven thou hast saved Greece, and gained a renown beyond all the Greeks of whom we have any knowledge. Now then to finish thy work, that thine own fame may be increased thereby, and that henceforth barbarians may fear to commit outrages on the Grecians. When Leonidas was slain at Thermopyles, Xerxes and Mardonius commanded that he should be beheaded and crucified. Do thou the like at this time by Mardonius, and thou wilt have glory in Sparta and likewise through the whole of Greece. For, by hanging him upon a cross, thou wilt avenge Leonidas, who was thy fathers brother."
And then Pausanias answered:
"My Aeginetan friend, for thy foresight and thy friendliness I am much beholden to thee: but the counsel which thou hast offered is not good. First hast thou lifted me up to the skies, by the praise of my country and my achievement; and then thou hast cast me down to the ground, by bidding me maltreat the dead, and saying that thus I shall raise myself in mens esteem. Such doings befit barbarians rather than Greeks; and even in barbarians we detest them."
Herodotus Histories (9.78) and (9.79)
