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Re: ETE nor anyone has been able to directly respond to me

July 10 2008 at 3:00 AM
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Response to ETE nor anyone has been able to directly respond to me

 
John 1:1 - The Logos always was God
John 1:2 - The Logos is a He, a person, being
John 1:3 - The Logos created all things, only God created (Gen 1)
John 1:14 - The Logos who is God and who created all things, became flesh, a man.

Hi Jason,

You need to review your conclusions or rather assumptions. In the above data I quoted from your post, John 1:1 - The Logos always was God, is not true. The LOGOS was with (the) GOD and the LOGOS was (a) GOD. Check your Greek Text and you will see.

Second, John 1:2 - The Logos is a He, a person, being. FALSE! Check your Greek Grammar and you will discover that LOGOS is not a person. It is a noun which is masculine but not a person. In Greek a non-personal NOUN can be attributed with personal genders. Like ekklesia (Church)is feminine in gender but it did not make ekklesia a female person. So, LOGOS in Jn1:1 is masculine in Greek without making it a personal being and so it follows that the HE in Jn1:2 only follows its antecedent but do not prove personality of the LOGOS.

Third,John 1:3 - The Logos created all things, only God created (Gen. It is a true and a false. It is THROUGH the LOGOS, through the instrumentality of the LOGOS, for LOGOS cannot create, it is God who created in Gen 1. Thus, in Gen 1 you find that God used WORD to create, He did not use his hands nor feet or any other else to create but THROUGH His Word. So, then your assumption is a mere speculations.

Fourth,John 1:14 - The Logos who is God and who created all things, became flesh, a man. You got a twofold error here. First is that you have not yet proven that the LOGOS and GOD are one and the same. If I will allow your argument to be true, it will give me TWO GODS in Jn 1:1, the LOGOS GOD and the NON-LOGOS GOD. You are confusing these TWO. Second is, you assumed that a PERSONAL LOGOS GOD became a MAN...wow...But go deeper, Jason, it does not said so. Verse 14 only asserts that the LOGOS became flesh. It did not said, GOD became man for it is foolishness. God is only God and cannot became not-GOD. Man on the same line is only Man and cannot became not-man. God is God and Man is Man. This is the very obvious self-contradictory evidence. A person can either be God or Man not God and Man.

Maybe, I have given you a blow of what you say that your arguments are so strong. I think it only stand on sands. By the way, I am not an INC, I am a Biblical Unitarian.

I am anticipating for your counter arguments.

Casido




 
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