May I know how to "test the spirits" in the following?
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS OF GOD:
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that CONFESSETH NOT that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh IS NOT OF GOD: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
I found it is not easy to expose the spirit of the antichrist.
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Maybe you look for the wrong thing in the wrong place.
What about trying a different translation?
Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
By this is the spirit of God known. Every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is of God:
And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus, is not of God: and this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh, and he is now already in the world.
(Douay-Rheims Bible)
Which part do you not understand?
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the spirit of antichrist is easily known..
they believed that jesus is God..it was already warned by the apostles..IT IS A DIFFRENT JESUS
2COR 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
THE TRUE JESUS IS A MAN IN NATURE..."SON OF GOD" AND NOT "GOD THE SON"...THIS IS THE SPIRIT[FAITH] THAT BELONGS[INC] TO GOD.
JOHN 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
MAT 16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
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A FRIENDLY ADVICE:
INSTEAD OF DEFENDING DEMONS TEACHINGS WHY DONT YOU OBEY GODS CALLING TO GET OUT OF RCC DEVILISH DOCTRINE?
Re 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
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How come all bible posters on this forum like to jump from one question
to the other while completely ignoring all answers or return questions?
Welcome to the club Sandie, you're in good companion now.
By the way, how on earth did you find us?
Are you having the same kind of trouble with Jesus as Burn Again,
something about His flesh?
Do I understand your question, man, is it hopeless and forlorn?
"Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm."
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If INC is the one and only true church etc then ..
Jesus must have failed as his church died out!
Felix manalo has succeeded where jesus christ failed
In this age of instant communications why does virtually no-one outside of the Philippines know of the existence of this one true church after 94 plus years?
Why are only Filipinos members (except for a few lonely white guys who married into it)
Why are no caucasian women going to heaven?
Why is the INC secretive and deceptive?
Why doesnt anyone of any note religious or not outside of the INC agree ie INC is only self proclaimng.
etc etc
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to further propagation of the one and only true church, you have a great idea to desiminate at your next monthly (read every week) buklod/kadiwa meetings
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Fyi, in our locale, there are two pure caucasian families...
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July 7 2008, 8:04 AM
and we don't care about colors, friends!
During the first century church, before Paul was called into the church, almost all members were Jews and that was about half a century long before Gentiles were called...after about one generation, the church was established in Asia Minor....I must say at the same rate the church is growing today...
Jesus did not fail...he actually foretold it.
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then obey Gods requirement and not your own ideas.
"every man shall be put to death for his own sin"
deut 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
so if God will kill you nothing and you only have 1 life what else will be left in you?..NOne!
THATS WHY YOU NEED CHRIST THRU HIS MYSTICAL BODY THE CHURCH,
"YOU NEED TO BE A MEMBER OF CHRIST BODY..THE CHURCH"
JN 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
MAT 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
MEMBERS OF CHRIST CHURCH ARE FORTUNATE COZ THEY ARE THE ONES REDEEMED BY CHRIST BLOOD AND ALREADY ASSURED OF SALVATION.
ROM 8:1 ¶ There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
ACT 20:28[ASV] Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood.
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I intended this Thread for us to be classified either as a sheep or a goat as our Lord warned in the following:
Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his SHEEP from the GOATS:
Mat 25:33 And he shall set the SHEEP ON HIS RIGHT HAND, but the GOATS ON THE LEFT.
On the basis of:
Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1 Joh 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS OF GOD:
1 Joh 4:3 And EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH NOT THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS NOT OF GOD: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Because everybody confesses that “Jesus Christ is come in the flesh,” I believe people are distinguished by the way they identify JESUS before coming in the flesh.
I suppose this is where the test is applied.
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Isaiah 43:11 is a good proof of Jesus non-existence being.
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July 3 2008, 11:29 PM
SANDRA MILLER SAID:
I cannot identify Jesus before manifesting Himself in the flesh. I am only puzzled by what I read claiming to be the only Savior in the following:
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
ETE REPLIES:
Isaiah 43:11, is the Ancient day declaration of God before God created Jesus in the flesh. In the ancient days and before Christianity, there was no one besides God as a Savior of Israel as per context on the Chapter, see v15,
15 I [am] the LORD, your Holy One, The Creator of Israel, your King." 16 Thus says the LORD, who makes a way in the sea And a path through the mighty waters,
But after God created Jesus as a Man, here is the declaration in the bible which is different from Isaiah 43:11...
Colossians 3:1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.
The Savior Jesus is sitting beside the Savior of Israel in the Ancient time, the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD.
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YOu wrote:
• Psa 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, and the high God their REDEEMER.
Isa 41:14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy REDEEMER, the HOLY ONE of Israel.
My Replies:
God was the rock of Israel, but NOT the literal rock nor the spiritual rock where they get their water.
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You cont:
• 1 Cor 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that ROCK was CHRIST.
My replies:
This verse reflects another rock, a spiritual drinking rock of Israel.
But is the literal rock where they get their drinks follows them wherever they go?
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Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and SEARCHED THE SCRIPTURES DAILY, WHETHER THOSE THINGS WERE SO.
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Since Jesus Christ is the Savior, can we not relate God’s PLAN FOR SALVATION promised in the Old Testament?
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It is written FATHER God was the one who made the promise or covenant for salvation. It is also written, this testament necessitates the death of the maker or testator:
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must of necessity be the death of him that made it.
How could this be?
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