The West must remain vigilant and cannot get complacent about current political situation in BiH.

In today"s Bosnia thousands of houses around the country have been repaired. Freedom of movement is taken for granted and a very high number of refugees have received back title to their old homes. It is no wonder that outsiders familiar with the bad old days are impressed. Some have even actively naively supported a "Bosnia model" for Iraq or Kosovo.

Unfortunately, while all the positive changes are real and significant, Bosnia is still a long way from being a healthy, normal country. In fact, the reality is that the International Community is the essential factor providing the economic underpinning for the country and preventing it from sliding back into conflict and possibly even violence.
1. The dominant feature of Bosnia remains ethnicity. Each of the three main ethnic groups remains wedded to the same views - and prejudices - they had during the fighting itself. While they have all been dissuaded/persuaded/discouraged/prevented from using violence, they continue to play out their differences in virtually every other way. This is the primary factor by far why Bosnia is not working today. This pervasive animosity/suspicion towards the other ethnic groups has diminished little, if at all, over the past twelve years. This is not particularly surprising given both the brutal nature of the fighting in Bosnia and the fact that many of the acts of ethnic cleansing and other war crimes were carried out by neighbors or acquaintances who are still living freely in Bosnia. For anyone doubting this view, take a look at the number of inter-ethnic marriages. Prior to the war, the figure was very high. Now I suspect it is almost nil.

2. The goal of the Dayton Peace Agreement was to end the years of bloody warfare in Bosnia. In this regard it was successful. But the resulting agreement was a mixture of compromise, idealism, conflicting goals, and concessions to each of the three ethnic groups. It codified a complex system of entities, cantons with a weak central government, three different Parliaments and three different Prime Ministers. Each of the three ethnic groups holds tightly to those parts of the Dayton Agreement, which suit its purposes and consistently try to chip away at those parts, which do not. Its emphasis on ethnicity on all questions actually helps to perpetuate the ethnic problems in the country and its complex structure is the main roadblock to progress in Bosnia.

3. EU "softly-softly" approach promising closer ties to the EU and eventual membership is no longer effective in getting the parties to come together . The reasons are the continued importance of ethnic beliefs on the one hand and the lack of any concrete time frame for EU membership on the other. Weakening international (Western) military presence in de facto divided Bosnia gives extremists on all sides "political ammunition".
4. The term "Bosniak" was originally used in the initial phases of the war to describe numerous Bosnians of all ethnicities who wanted to work together to keep the newly independent state functioning. One of the saddest commentaries about today's situation is that the term now is simply the politically correct way to describe Bosnian Muslims and nothing more.

5. Returning properties all over Bosnia to the rightful owners was heralded as a success but a very high number of the restored properties are either sold quickly, traded, or are inhabited very infrequently, if at all.

6. Freedom of religion is one of the most important human rights and one, which Americans in particular treasure. In Bosnia, however, this very freedom of expression is either deliberately being used to provoke the other ethnic groups or they perceive this to be the case. Regardless of the truth of the matter, the end result is that overt/public religious expression in Bosnia is helping to widen, not shrink, the gap between the ethnic groups.

7. The amount of international financial assistance to Bosnia in the past has been several billions of dollars. Where all that money has gone ? Apart from military spendings a very significant portion has been used to pay the costs of various outsiders (members of the International Police Task Force, security personnel, personnel in the Office of High Representative, various NGO's, and advisers of all kinds). Infrastructure remains a huge unsolved problem. The road network, twelve years after Dayton is largely ignored by all sides. The end result is that far too little is to show for all the resources spent.

8. . BiH inherited all trappings of the pre-war Yugoslav federation. The Bosnian Muslims (Bosniaks) have always wanted a strong centralized state and view BiH as a whole in other words they identify with all of it. The other two ethnic groups do not. The Bosniaks are the most numerous and therefore at least in theory would be the most powerful group. The Bosnian Serbs to a person consider that they live in the Republika Srpska and will do all they can to maintain or expand their autonomy. The Bosnian Croats clutch their Croatian passports and work only to ensure that the equal rights they received in Dayton remain intact. These three fundamental viewpoints are mutually exclusive and explain why the system is deadlocked now and is likely to remain that way for the foreseeable future.

9. Primarily because it is more effective and in keeping with their own national experiences, the key members of the International Community are sympathetic to the Bosniak viewpoint on how Bosnia should function. In other words, they are uncomfortable with the degree of autonomy given to each entity, the weak central government, and the veto powers given to each ethnic group by the Dayton Agreement. That accounts for why various High Representatives have pressed the parties so hard to "voluntarily" give more power to the centralized state at the expense of the entities and why they have stretched their powers to the legal limit to make the system more workable. The current crisis involving the decisions of the High Representative is precisely over these issues.

10. Finally, there are factors are coming together to create a potentially serious crisis in Bosnia. These include the impact of Kosovo; increased nationalist sentiment in Serbia; the growing frustration of all the Bosnian parties over years of rule by the International Community; and the waning interest of the International Community in Bosnia. Moreover, all the key political parties understand that the role of the International Community is diminishing and will continue to do so. This is emboldening them to make statements and take actions, which they would not have dared to do several years ago. In other words, the forces, which have kept Bosnia stabile for twelve years, are weakening while the destabilizing factors are growing in strength. It's a bad combination.
The West and International Community must remain vigilant...

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Izgleda da Karla nadolazis polako i ne prodajes vise suplju o Mitru Miricu. Ti si ili predobra ili prenasminkana za ovo podrucje. Ovdje samo `direktno` prolazi. Za sad, dok ne..

Macamudane,
Ufam da tvoj komentar nije zlonamjerni...
Kao bivsa humanitarna radnica ja osobno mislim Vas na Balkanu trebe cuvati kao djecu da se ne igrate zigicama.

Dok cijela Europa gleda unaprijed prema blagostanju i napretku vi ste (sa svojim zapadnjackim mobilnim telefonima u dzepovima) jos jednom nogom nalazite u srednjovjekovlju.

Prije 20 godina mislila sam da narodi bivse Jugoslavije trebale postati prve clanice u EU iz jugo-istocne Europe.
Sad imam pred ocima politicki zemljovid Europske Unije.
Naokolo plavo dok u centru vidi se velika post-daytonska "crna rupa".

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Moramo se igrati zigicama. Tako nam grah bacaju ovi sa desne strane Drine i njihovi vazali u BH. Sta je uzrok to nama i njima treba reci jasno. Ovo je nacionalizam na visokom nivou, mozda je to tebi smijesno i primitivno ali pojedinci ovdje rade na tome smisljeno i vrlo organizovano. Tvoji komentari sa Mitrom Miricem nece nista promijeniti ili recimo kod onih uhljupa Marka i Grandcomandira probuditi moral. Boje se oni neceg drugog)
I nije zlonamjerno tebi svaka cast.

HMMMMM
zaista si patetican i jadan,gde god mozes ti iskoristis priliku da pljunes po meni a naravno istovremeno se i uvlacis "strancima"
ma nema oduvek ste bili vazali,srpski,turski,hrvatski to ti je u korenima
nego kada nisi Hrvat ili Srbin nego "bosnjak" sto govoris srpsko-hrvatskim,gde je taj vas jezik haha pojela maca a?
a sada ceka komentar tvog novog gazde carle i tvog zastitnika jer me tvoj jos manje interesuje
p.s. nauci barem turski,trebace ti za par godina,kada budes odlazio da robujes vasoj"sabraci"

Stovani Macamudane,
Ufam da tvoj komentar nije zlonamjerni...
Kao bivsa humanitarna radnica ja osobno mislim Vas na Balkanu trebe cuvati kao djecu da se ne igrate zigicama.

Dok cijela Europa gleda unaprijed prema blagostanju i napretku vi ste (sa svojim zapadnjackim mobilnim telefonima u dzepovima) jos jednom nogom nalazite u srednjovjekovlju.

Prije 20 godina mislila sam da narodi bivse Jugoslavije trebale postati prve clanice u EU iz jugo-istocne Europe.
Sad imam pred ocima politicki zemljovid Europske Unije.
Naokolo plavo dok u centru vidi se velika post-daytonska "crna rupa".


Stovani Vojskovodjo, vase upise samo potvrdjuju moju (zapadnjacku) tezu o post-Daytonskoj paranoji na Balkanu.
Mrznja , osveta, nepovjerenje, sumnjivost...to se osjeca u vasim prilozima napisanim istim jezikom.
Svojim ponasanjem vi gurate svoje i buduce mlade generacije Srba, Hrvata i Bosanaca/Bosnjaka u srednjovjekovlje.
Nek svaki bude tko god hoce... na kraju krajeva zivimo u istoj Europi.
Kad hocete izaci iz toga povijesnog corsokaka ?

Stovani Zetamane,
Ovaj forum takodjer zavrsio je u corsokaku. Nikakvog dijaloga, sadrzajne, zdrave razmjene stavova/pogleda... kamoli suradnje ili kompromisa....svaki zatvorio se u svojoj "nacionalistickoj tvrdjavi" i suti...

Ufam da to nije tisina prije slijedece balkanske oluje ?


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Mi komuiniciramo prego Haga i Evrope. Dragomir Milosevic general vojske RS osudjen na 33 godine za zlocine nad stanovnicima Sarajeva 92-95.
U Srbiji bi bio napravljen herojem kao sto je Seselj za Grandcomandira. I s kim da pricam?

general.D.Milosevic i jeste heroj,taj covek je vrsio vojnicku duznost i cuvao srpski narod od podivljalih mudzahedina iz sarajeva,nije klao neduzne civile kao tvoji idoli naser oric i juka prazina.

To ti je to Karla,
fine pare sigurno zaradjujes u BH al odjebi sad od BH, dosta je

Grandcomandire Kosovo se odvaja od Servije, dosadasnji program huskanja jadnog naroda vam slabo funkcionise. Ostaces bez posla ako nesto novo ubrzo ne predlozis svojim seseljevcima. Iskoristi priliku sada kada je pometnja kod vas fundamentalista. Cudi me da si tolika kukavica da ne priznajes dokazane cinjenice s obzirom da su Srbi hrabar narod. Znaju seseljevci izabrati `prave ljude`.. Sram te bilo.

Stovani Macmudane,
Puno sam razocarana tvojim zadnjim upisom, kojim dajes svjedocanstvo svoje osobne kulture i kulure naroda koji pokusavas ovdje zastupati.
Posteni ljudi kontroliraju svoje misli i....jezik.
Necu ja silaziti do takve razine debatiranja.



Radim u UNHCR iz humanitarnih razloga. Tijekom vasih varvarskih gradjanskih, bratoubilackh ratova u bivsoj Jugoslaviji poginuli si ili bili su ozbiljno ozlijedjeni moje kolege iz UNHCR-a i Crvenog Kriza (necu zaboraviti i osobno mi poznatih stranih novinara).
Tvoj komentar o novcu smatram imoralnim i zlonamjernim.

Srdacno ti nazivam selam iz Londona.

Zelim ti uspjeha u civilizovanoj Ujedinjenoj Europi u 21 stoljecu.




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da da odvaja se ali u tvojim mislima
nego da li si cuo mozda za gasovod koji preko Srbije ide za bosnu,slucajno je ruski i ide iskljucivo preko R.Srpske zato bolje budite dobri ili cemo vam zavrnuti slavinu

a da i referendum u R.Srpskoj je 2009 ,zamalo to da zaboravim da ti kazem.
Menjaju se vremena turcine moj,nema vise usa i e.u. da vam cuvaju ledja sada je Rusija sve jaca i jaca,znam da te boli, ali jos malo i jaca i jaca a R.Srpske sve dalja i dalja i dalja od bosnice

Ja sam rodjen Karla i zivio u Sarajevu za vrijeme cetnicke agresije. Koga sam ja granatirao i sto su Sarajlije i svi Bosnjaci ratovali? Da ubijaju komsije?
Ne kazem da tako mislis ali mozda ti nekako drugacije vidis stvari al ja ne vidim. I zato me nerviraju tvoji stalni komentari koji izjednacavaju Bosance sa cetnicima. To ako ne vidis bolje za tebe da nisi na ovom podrucju, to sam htio da ti kazem. Ko je pucao na te novinare? Ko je neki dan prijetio da ce ubiti novinara na intervju na HRT-u?

Grandcomandir ako ti priznas da si imbecil kojem nema lijeka ja cu da zagovaram svuda gdje mogu da se RS odvoji od BH. Vidjeces moje komentare za podrskom za cijepanje BH, imas moju rijec. Hajde, samo iskreno.

Eto ti kompromis i svi sretni.

Stovani Macmudane,

Necu ja se cijenkati tko je veci zulum cinio tijekom vasih besmislenih komsiluckih ratova.
Necu uporedjivati tko je poklao vise svojih mnogovjekovnih susjeda, etnicki ocistio svoje gradove i sela , tko je vise krao, tko je popalio vise kuca, tko je silovao vise zena. Necu je se uplesti u takvo debatiranje jer to nije posteno niti moralno. Nek se time bavi Haski Tribunal i objektivna medjunarodna zajednica.

Za mene osobno (kao zenu i humanitarku) suze bosnjacke majke imaju istu cijenu kao i suze hrvatske ili srpske majke.

Svaki ratni ratni kriminalac mora se suociti sa poslijedicama svojih zlocina bez obzira na njezinu/njegovu nacionalnost ili vjersku pripadnost.

Inace naviknuta sam na napade i uvrijede balkanskih sovinista. Samo procitaj priloge na moju adresu na susjednim forumima.

Iskreno mislim da rijec OBJEKTIVNOST ne postoji u vasem balkanskom viktimoloskom mentalitetu.

Samo vidite tudje grijehove...

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pa kako to niste nikoga dirali bili ste tako mirni dobri i nevini
zasto onda Srba vise nema u sarajevu???
i naravno ono NAJVAZNIJE
Gde je nestalo onih 15.000 Srba iz sarajeva??? pobili ste svoje sugradjane i to tendeciozno i planirano
celokupnu srpsku inteligenciju koja nije uspela da se evakuise iz vaseg "miroljubivog" sarajeva ste pobili

kompromis sa handzar divizijom-NIKAD

hahaha dobar ti ovaj grandcomandire, boli tebe pijuckas i pod..bavas tako i treba kad vec mozes.
Protjerivao sam intelektualce Srbe iz Sarajeva. Intelektualci Srbi? Alal vera intelektualcima Srbima koji odose iz Sarajeva.
Mi varvari Balkanski u Sarajevu jos nismo emancipovani dovoljno imaj to na umu.

Handzar Divizija, odred Sarajevo.

priznajes
znaci polako.....mozda ima nade da se oporavis i donekle dusevno ozdravis

Stovani momci iz brdovitog Balkana,
Bas prijevodim vas "razgovor/debatiranje" mojim kolegama u nasem birou u Genevi.
Zbog Bozicnih blagdana i politicke korektnosti necu ja vama nevesti njihove komentare.

Ufam da makar vasa unucad hoce se roditi u ujedinjenoj, demokratskoj, tolerantnoj, ekoloski cistoj Europi bez granica.
U medjuvremenu vi momci morate odluciti hocete li ici nazad u srednjovjekovlje ili krenuti naprijed prema buducnosti i civilizaciji.


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Vraticemo se mi i u praistorijsko doba ako treba a neki vec zive u pecinama, zna ih dobro grandcomandir. Ne vidim kako drugacije da izlijecimo nase komplekse. Vidis li ti grandcomandire? Sta je uzrok tvom kompleksu bas me zanima sta te muci pa volis ratne zlocince? Identitet sta? Hajd iskreno reci ne budi su.ak vise.

vidi turcine moj nisam ja potomak pavelica,artukovica,ljube milosa,fra sotone,nasera orica,juke prazine...itd
ko je nosio fes sa slovom u to se zna
ko je ubijao Srbe,Jevreje i Rome u Jasenovcu (700.000) i to se zna
prema tome turcine moj zlocinacke gene imas i nije ni cudo zasto si tako poremecen

Stovani "Vojskovodjo",
Jeli ti poznata osoba (moderator) koja samovoljno/autoritarno obrisala je moj prilog na Srpskom forumu bez moje autorizacije ?
Posto kao ravnopravni sumoderatori uspostavilismo dosta civilizovane odnose izmedju nas molim te da mi pomognes po tom pitanju/slucaju.

Citiram moj obrisani prilog u cijelini:

"My co-moderators on the Serbian Forum,
In my opinion a promotion of militarism is the very last thing this forum and the Balkan peoples need at this point in time.
I cannot understand you insensitivity. Boys, what does turn you on in this vain militaristic pageantry ?
Have you ever seen paralyzed, blind, legless and armless young men in UNHCR/Red Cross camps across the Balkan in the 90s ?

Your pathetic juvenile testosterone driven posts do not prove anything and contribute nothing to a constructive and civilized debating.

I do not think it is the most dignified way of celebrating the spirit of Christmas ?


P.S.
Please, respect my point of views as I respect yours.

I do not delete, edit, past or interfere with your posts in any shape or form.
You know full well I can and I could do it.

We have been there on a few occasions. Only Zetaman as the owner and Administrator of these forums has authority to delete/edit the posts of the moderators who he personally appointed.
I do not wish to repeat myself like a broken record."


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Zetaman sram te bilo sto nam saljes ove `Vojskovodje` na BH Forum. Nosi ih sebi u Zetu sutra papak. To je sve od mene za BH Forum. Sad znam sto se i drugi normalni nikad ne javljaju ovdje.