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Christianity is NOT about "me & God"

June 3 2002 at 7:22 AM
Gallegos  (Login Gallegos)
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I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about the nature of Christian faith. Missy’s post has promted some of this reflection but this is in no way to be construed as a response to her or anyone else (btw – I had no idea what was going on with you, Missy, when I posted earlier. I’m sorry if I sounded insensitive; You are in my prayers).

Since the Enlightenment, Christianity (esp. as it has evolved in the USA) has become very individualistic and oriented toward the present. This is to say (in plain terms) that many conservative Christians in the USA understand their Christian faith as “my personal relationship with God” here in the present. Thus, when “God fails me” there has been a breach of relationship. Often we’re told to remain faithful and true “even when God seems absent.” Obviously, construed this way, it remains difficult to see why anyone would want to serve an absent God or a deity that was not able to keep evil things from happening to me.

This is common in the USA and further accentuated by the American myth of prosperity. Mixed with Christianity, this tends to perpetuate a gospel that links “well-being” with the goodness of God. But this is very different from the way that earlier Christians in the first four centuries of the church construed their faith.

Up until the time of the emperor Constantine, Christians were persecuted and suffered in ways that we can only imagine. They were physically tortured, economically taken advantage of, given over to be eaten alive by lions in the Roman arenas, and many suffered from rampant poverty & bubonic plague. Talk about a rough existence.

But these early Christians did not construe their faith in such individualistic terms. Rather, their orientation was communal & social. That is to say that the promises of God were NOT directed to the individual Christian but to the Church as a whole. While individual Christians may suffer, God’s faithfulness is to the Church as a whole. God’s call to his people (the Church & Israel as a whole) is to remain faithful just as Jesus was faithful all the way to the cross (ultimate suffering).

It truly is difficult to see where we get the notion that suffering is not part of our Christian existence. While I am an academic by nature, I do speak having experienced much personal suffering & witnessed great tragedy (I had a family member working in the Pentagon during 9/11 and have had a dear friend – a 13 year old girl – die of leukemia right in front of my eyes; this is only the beginning). But the New Testament is really more about how the Church is to live in the midst of suffering.

Finally, we do ourselves much disservice when we forget that our faith is really oriented toward the future. It is not about our individual selves in the present. It is about the corporate future with Jesus. Christian faith is really hope for the future when Jesus will return & all suffering will be eliminated. But the elimination of suffering only comes by way of the cross. Jesus conquers suffering by facing suffering and overcoming it. His disciples are to follow Jesus to the cross and hope for the future when Jesus will return.
In sum, I want to offer a reflection on the life of a Christian. For too long we have talked about God in the abstract as if this abstract deity is responsible for good and/or evil. But we have failed to see this God through the lens of Jesus Christ (God incarnate). The overcoming of evil & suffering is by way of the cross, by facing suffering to our death with the hope of future resurrection like Jesus’. His resurrection is the first fruits of our future life with him. Thus, a Christian response to suffering is not neither a trite “all things work together for good” nor is it a pendulum swing to the other extreme of total rejection of the Christian God. Rather it is a realistic recognition that God’s promise is not to keep us from suffering but to overcome it through the way of the cross. In the present we suffer and experience pain with the hope that in the future death and suffering will be no more. Our faith in God is ultimately our hope for this future centered in Jesus.

Pax Christi.
-Gallegos

 
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Um . . . . yes it is. God + Me = Religion n/m

June 3 2002, 8:25 AM 

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One with the tao
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I agree Gallegos...

June 5 2002, 2:38 AM 

Too often people lose sight of the communal benefits of religions and get caught up with their own personal wants and desires. They want and desire more and more it is greed in faith. Often times their desires and expectations are not attainable, and this leads to grief, and misery.

I love the undertones in the Simpsons, like when homer will say something like, "please God, Let me get that doughnut, or let me win the lottery" But I think this truly does happen, well maybe not the doughnut..lol
Or how about when a sports player will thank god for letting them win, I mean come on is god a patriots fan?? god had nothing to do with it...sheesh

Cheers,
One with the tao

 
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Well said...

June 7 2002, 9:03 PM 

Time limits me to just a few words, but I wanted to commend you for really "hitting it on the head!"

There is no doubt American Christians (including myself for sure) often view their faith in highly individualistic terms and disregard the importance of its role in larger contexts such as community. A good reminder for me!

Steve


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Re: Christianity is NOT about "me & God"

June 15 2002, 7:51 PM 

you talk about the church and OUR faith and how we must endure the suffering- it's just the beginning? wellto be around for a huge amount of time because when is the middle? when's the end gonna occur when we've endured the suffering for thousands of years? suffering has gone on forever before "christ", during the middle ages of famine and plague, massacres of jewish people during the crusades, the holocaust and in between, not to mention other genocides, floods, fires, pollutions in the water and eventually deadly effects of the air. im sorry but if you're accurate, that means that we're gonna be around forever even though we're making it fully possible to kill every single speicies on this planet. also why would you suggest that the suffering begins with the americans? are you really ignorant enough to dismiss everyother nations troubles? (many which are american caused troubles).

 
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toni70
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bump

May 28 2008, 10:26 PM 

this is a good thread

 
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